Thank you mulberryknob. That is exactly what they are and I read that they are hardy in zone 9. I'm perplexed as to why they have never bloomed here.

Yes Babs I debated between the two but did not immediately see a match for Solidago and ran out of time to check. If the OP lets it flower I will be curious to see the outcome.

Question: I bought that new flower yesterday, but I can't put it where I want it until after bloom season. What do I do with it? Right now it is just soaking. Milano Crimson Tide. Orange Velvet Regal Heir clump Scarlet Pimpernel Clump Smoky Mt Autumn clump. It is having an extra short season both in length and height. Spider Miracle Tenn. Sunset Seedling from Smoky Mt Autumn and Jolyene Nichole, first year, 2 buds. I think I'll end here. Brad

Northraleighguy, some Carex species are very hard to ID, and require a ruler and magnifier, bring it on. I'm collecting more myself to use instead of a monoculture grass lawn. This shows the dominance of genera in North Carolina, with Carex as #1. Alan Weakley https://hoffmannursery.com/blog/article/an-abundance-of-sedges