What to put under dry creek bed? FL weeds laugh at landscape fabric!
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Comments (4)The OP asks " ... how should I go about doing this." Your property appears to be rather flat. Coupled with close neighbors, things can get sticky. Start by getting someone other than yourself to document the existing grades over all of the project area. Use an engineer, surveyor, LA, or one who has many years of experience. The result should be a contour map with spot elevations also shown. The most important thing is the location where water is crossing the tract boundary. Before starting the design, study the drainage law of your area. Law differs from state to state, but the most common applicaton is the civil law doctrine of drainage. Here I repeat what I said on another thread. Note that part in bold. A good overview can be found at: http://publicworks.co.marion.or.us/engineering/DevEng/drainagelaw.asp "The lower owner must accept water which naturally comes to his land from above, ..." In Arizona: https://www.coconino.az.gov/uploadedFiles/Public_Works/Homeowner_Guide_To_Drainage.pdf "A second drainage law is "The Civil Law Rule of Natural rainage". This rule states that a landowner has the burden of receiving onto his/her land the surface water naturally falling onto and freely flowing onto it from land above it. The rule further states that a landowner has the right to have the surface water falling upon his/her land and naturally flowing onto it to flow freely from it onto lower parcels as it would flow under natural conditions. The key words are "naturally flowing". Any modifications to the surface topography or the drainage ways that cause natural flow to enter or leave a property differently (different peak flow elevations, frequencies and flow locations) can create a liability and put you at risk regarding litigation." Or from: http://web.aces.uiuc.edu/vista/pdf_pubs/DRAINAGE98.PDF "A landowner has no right to obstruct the flow of surface water. The owner of lower land obviously has no right to build a dam, levee, or other artificial structure that will interfere with the drainage of higher land, according to the CIVIL LAW as it is applied in Illinois."...See MoreThe dry creek bed ready for suggestions
Comments (13)I have a Senna corymbosa that was mislabeled when I got it, so it's much too big for its current spot. I'm considering moving it on the berm to the area where the 'head' of the creek is. I also have a Lindheimer's muhly that I'd like to place next to on that left (east end). The camera makes the whole area all look huge and really long but from the front, what's to the left of it, is the neighbor's driveway/front and what's behind it is my side yard and wooden fence. So there really isn't a field behing it, thought it may appear that way. I also have 2 switch grass 'Prarie Sky' Panicum virgatum that I think I'll put where there is a wedge of grass righ now between the head of the creek and the berm, where the water will funnel in. I think the switch grass will be OK being in the water when it rains hard. DH really likes grass and doesn't want to mulch the berm. For the winter I think I'm going to put a cover crop on it and then next spring we can do the Habiturf. We'll have to edge the front side of the berm to do that to be sure no other grass runs up in there. Then hopefully we can leave the berm unmowed. I am going to plant all of it between the creek and the house and I've already done carboard/mulch over a big portion of it. We've been waiting all this time to get the walk replaced but they finally told us they'll do it next week. So that will help me a lot getting going forward on this. I do have some of the plants that I've picked up on sale, repotted and kept in morning sun only. I'n hoping to have it all prepped and be able to get them in the ground late September/early October. I'll do some more pics after the walk way is finished....See MoreDry Creek Bed and Corrugated Pipe
Comments (8)Yes a picture would be much easier. In the picture this is looking up a hill. Its decieving but to the right of the drain is another hill. The tree on the left of the drain has a 4 inch root going under the drain. I need to do something here and because of the slope I can't go much further to the right and can't go deeper without cutting the tree root. Thats why I was wondering if that stretch I could put a pipe in the very bottom for unobstructed water flow, but I have never seen that done and can't find an example online. So that makes me wonder if its a dumb idea. Ideas are appreciated. Thanks....See MoreDry creek bed
Comments (27)I would not attempt to make a dry creek bed full of rock if you want a more naturalistic appearance. Rather the rain garden concept works well if you get adequate rain to keep the plants you want alive. The stream channel should undulate in width so its not a straight shot channel (like an engineer would design). A series of "check dams" should be built every 15 feet or so to help form terraced levels that would eventually capture sediment and also slow down the flow of water. Plant grasses and native plant seeds aggressively to help compete with any weed seeds. A thick landscape fabric between the underlying soil and the rock stream will keep soil from mixing with the rock and reduce sedimentation of the pond. If you dont use a fabric liner, all the loose soil will be carried down into the pond. Minimize sediment from entering the beginning of the stream by using bioswales that will eventually get covered over with vegetation, otherwise they look like an erosion control project - not a final design that is aesthetically pleasing. Like Yardvaark said, you need a landscaper who has a good sense for artistic placement of boulders, rock and plants as well as a good understanding of erosion control, sedimentation, and drainage in general. Key is to slow the water down because the higher the velocity the more erosive it will be both to the soil as well and moving the smaller rock material that is not wedged in place....See Moretracefloyd
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