I spoke to multiple people about dishwashers for my renovation and all recommended getting a Bosch, saying it is the gold standard and there is no reason to spend more. That includes an appliance salesman working on commission.

IMO Bosch is still king for DWs I have had them in my current house and my last house the current one is 16 yrs old not one service call and I run a catering biz from my home so sometimes 6-8 loads a day. I love the quick wash cycle I use 90% of the time and the pot cycle really does the job. As for deals for matching all appliances from one maker I never do that. IMO there is no one maker that makes all things well. That is why plain old stainless is best then whatever you choose all goes together.

Bosch or Miele work great

Why are you looking at a Gaggenau for a dishwasher? I agree with the previous comments. Bosch or Miele are the go-tos for dishwashers. My personal opinion is that $3,300 for a dishwasher doesn't make sense given the very good dishwashers available for much less, but it's your money.

The BSH showroom has all 3 brands there in separate areas. When I asked the salesman about the differences between Gag and the others, he said styling and that Gag is hand crafted.

I love the look of a Gag oven, and I love their full surface induction cooktop, which does NOT have defined cooking areas. The frig has metal compartments that look nice and would be durable. I like the Gag wall hood, although CFM wise, I'm not sure that it is worth it.

The promotion is buy 5 Gag and the 2 year waranty is extended to 5 years. Both 2 years and 5 years seem pretty lame to me given the price. And frankly, I think a major appliance should work and last a long time--longer than 5 years at least--but I'm living in a different time apparently. Long answer, but the warranty thing sounds appealing, particularly if I am set on Gag speed oven, Gag regular oven, and Gag induction cooktop already.

Then I would think of it as paying $2,000 for an extended warranty on your appliances, since the Gaggenau dishwasher is no better and likely worse than the Bosch and Miele gold standards. Is that really worth it? Up to you. But all this tells me is that your appliance store needs to clear out Gaggenau dishwashers because no one wants them.

That Gaggenau dishwasher is outrageously overpriced. BSH is the manufacturer of Bosch, Thermador, and Gaggenau appliances. Any of the following panel-ready dishwashers would be satisfactory at as little as 1/3rd the price:

• Bosch SHVM63W53N ($1100)
• Bosch SHVM78Z53N ($1200)
• Bosch SHV78B73UC ($1350)

Open up the doors and pull out the racks on a Bosch, a Miele, and a Gagg. A Bosch machine will clean and dry your dishes flawlessly. Everone I know who has a Bosch loves it. The only reason to pay more would be a machine with better (for you) rack features. Miele machines differe substantially from Bosch in layout--what kind of dishes fit--and in how the racks pull out or adjust heights. Does a Gaggenau offer anything substantially different from Bosch in the racks?

Gag offers a 5 year warranty and a drying feature that supposedly dries everything (believe it when I see it). Bosch does not.

Our Bosch dries everything bone dry and we were able to buy a 5 year extended warranty for $150 through the appliance store.

Sounds like a great price to me thinkdesignlive. Much better than other option.

Fell down the rabbit hole -- got 2 Gaggenau 400 series dishwashers.

CAN CONFIRM the drying is amazing and a game changer.

You can also disable the dishwasher done tone, so it doesn't do the incessant/annoying beeping of the Bosch 800 series when they're done (so you go open them). Awesome lighting. Ball bearing hinges. SOFT CLOSE drawers lol. It's own salt reservoir. Super cool (and well built) panel door system that allows you to mount the dishwasher anywhere (think like wall oven).

Bottom line is: It's really great. is it worth the extra money? Yes. Is it overpriced? Most likely, but there's no competition... So hard to say for sure. and like with everything you pay more for improvements. FWIW i got the first one on a discount, and was willing to pay the full price for the second one.

Thank you Gene. I am in the process of getting a Miele DW--love the "knock to open" feature. The Gag in the Gag/Bosch/Thermadoor factory showroom was kind of hard to open, although the Gag at my cabinet company's showroom is so easy to open that just bumping against it opens it. I assume that the ease/difficulty of opening is a setting that can be adjusted.

Looking back I guess you didn’t like my comment haha. But I have a Miele DW and think you made the right choice.

FWIW, I love my $1100 800-series Bosch dishwasher - everything is bone dry.

Can't go wrong with Bosch 800.

Make sure you get one WITHOUT pushable buttons as they are NOT insulated from water. Leading to the possibility of you killing your dishwasher.... with water.... from a spill on the counter... Which is what happened to me.

Knock/push to open setting -- I honestly didn't see it in the menus. It works very well, but I would prefer not having it personally, or turning it off. Will check and report back.

COVE i wouldn't recommend based on what i've read.

Bosch 800 is awesome. Gagganau is better in every single way. As it should be. It's a Bosch that's upgraded. But obviously you can buy 2-3 Bosch 800s for the one Gagganau 400.

@Gene Sky: "Gagganau is better in every single way. As it should be. It's a Bosch that's upgraded."

No, it's a Bosch that's rebadged.

push/touch to open: can't find way to disable it.

Activating "childproof" lock says "it impedes ability to open door" but i'm guessing it's only for when the unit is running. push / touch to open seems to be as is, unchangeable.

Gene Sky, next time I am in the Gaggenau showroom in Chicago, I will ask. But that may be many weeks or so. Or you can always call them yourself at 312-832-3200 or email corporate to see if they can tell you how to adjust the settings. Maybe there is a screw that needs to be loosened. I've emailed corporate before with questions, and they were very responsive. There was definitely a difference in how easy it was to push to open the DW at the Gaggenau showroom versus the DW at my cabinet company showroom. Perhaps they had different models (ADA vs standard height) or different years of DW? The cabinet company showroom one would have been ADA. They were both 400 Series ones because they did not have handles.

https://www.gaggenau.com/us/for-owners/customer-care/contact-us

@Gene Sky: "Activating 'childproof' lock says 'it impedes ability to open door' but i'm guessing it's only for when the unit is running."

No, "If you have activated the child-proof lock, press twice in quick succession at the upper middle part of the door" to open it. -- Manual page 35

@wdccruise .

I literally just went from a bosch 800 to a gaggenau 400.

I'm telling you, every single aspect of using the dishwasher is UPGRADED and IMPROVED.

Rebadged = slap a different badge on and keep the same unit. NOT what is happening here.

now is it worth the 3x price tag? of course not. not linearly. But that's the case with every single thing. To get something to 80% is WAY less effort than to get to 90%. And compared to the market options available, this is competitive.

@Gene Sky: "I'm telling you, every single aspect of using the dishwasher is UPGRADED and IMPROVED."

Really? Gaggenau DF481763F ($???) vs. Bosch HV78B73UC ($1214).

I don't know what all the differences between the Bosch and Gag DW are feature wise. But here is one feature that matters to me and played a role in my purchasing decision when I was shopping.

The Bosch DW has a handle. The Gag 400 series does not. That may not seem like a big deal to a lot of people or certainly not worth paying up a lot of money over. In fact, some people might prefer the one with the handle. But if none of the appliances in your kitchen will have a handle and these appliances are to be integrated with the cabinets and the cabinets themselves are handle-less, then all of a sudden that one stinking handle on the DW that sticks out like a sore thumb becomes important and you become willing to pay extra to have the DW without the handle when you are remodeling your kitchen.

People spend a lot of money to have a heated steering wheel and heated seats installed in their cars, a fancy stereo, or a certain color of paint or seating interior. It is all what matters to you.

FYI -- Gag DF480701 $3,199

Miele G7591 $2,949

So, not much difference in price between the Miele and Gag. Obviously, bigger difference with Bosch and Gag.

"The Bosch DW has a handle."

Nope.

Bosch 100 ($650) /300 ($700) /500 ($950), 800 ($1170+) dishwashers

Those are not panel ready, integrated DW