Is Fragrant masterpiece patented?
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Fragrant Masterpiece of Magnificent Perfume?
Comments (8)They are very different roses. Magnificent Perfume is like SDLM on steroids. Similar flowers in terms of shape and color, but much bigger and perfume is wonderful and stronger than SDLM. BS resistance is nothing special, again similar to SDLM it requires spraying. Good repeat, vigorous and blooms a lot. I gave my MP after 6 years in my garden, it was 6x5 feet, upright bushy growth and the only reason I don't grow it anymore is my conversion to a no spray garden. Do you like myrrh fragrance? I ask because Fragrant Masterpiece has the best myrrh fragrance I ever experienced. Similar, but much stronger than fragrance of Constance Spry. This rose has wonderful heavy blooms of exceptional quality. It has big spring flush and only moderate repeat. It probably could repeat better if you grow it as a climber. It throws long canes, that I was cutting shorter to maintain it as a bush. Canes are quite flexible. It could be my approach of cutting it back all the time restrained its repeat. Disease (BS) resistance is similar to MP. It needs spraying and I gave it away after 6 years in my garden, for the same reason as MP. Both are good roses, if you are spraying. I would never be w/o them if my climate would be a little more forgiving. OLga...See MorePatenting a rose sport?
Comments (26)Hello everybody (specially JAXONDEL)! My name is Mariano R. Saviello, I am 25 years old and I have recently got my degree in Biotechnology in the National University of Quilmes (Buenos Aires, Argentina). I am also working in a Laboratory of Molecular Microbiology in the same University doing a research in Microbiology that will be part of my thesis, when I get my master in Biotechnology in a few months. Anyway, I am plannig to start to work in another laboratory; maybe in something related with Vegetal Biotechnology, so I am really excited about this. Maybe you are not interested in this things I have started to write, but I thought it would be good if you know something about me because it is my first message here, so you know who is writting to you. Since I was a little child I love all kind of plants, but roses are my favourite. It is true that they need many special cares, some attention and a lot of love; but this support is always proportional with the happyness they give us in their flowering time! All the time and effort we invest is well worth!. So, I have started to grow them since then. My grandfather Nilo Sánchez was also a rose grower and used to have a huge collection of roses in Necochea, a seaside town almost 500 kilometres from Buenos Aires, where we have a house in which we spend every summer harvesting cherries, plums, apricots and pears. Activity shared by many members of my family. At the moment the-in that time- huge rose collection is not what it was; but we could keep some really interesting varieties, including some old relics, really difficult to find nowadays here in Argentina ´s nurseries, although it is a pity we could not invest much time in the house because it is really far away from where I am living now (Buenos Aires). It is my hobbie and a really healthy way to spend my free time, and switch my mind off the daily routine. Some years ago or a bit more, maybe-I read about the ´Help Me Find´ website, and posted some pictures too, but could not dedicate too much time because I was studying hard to get my degree; so I used the site just to learn more things about this plant and identify some of our rose bushes. Nowadays, with more free time, I am trying to recover my grandfather ´s rose collection, and have been buying many rose bushes to fill the empty spaces of the garden (I plant each variety in the place it used to be when my grandfa was young, according to what he have told me). Everything has changed a lot and we are having now a really colourful space each spring, but we still have to recover some cultivars such as ´Charles Mallerin´, ´Yellow Talismán´, ´Tzigane´, ´Rina Herholdt´, ´Frau Kart Druschky´, ´Salmon Ange´, ´Ballet´, ´Eden Rose´, ´Crimson Glory´, ´Forty-Niner´, ´Mojave, ´President Hoover´, ´Caledonia´, ´Rumba´, ´Kordes Perfecta Superior´ and, of course CHANTRÉ ROSE. The aim of this e-mail, after reading in the ´Garden Web Forum´ that JAXONDEL said once (20, April 2009): "one can't even find a photo of it", in reference to the ´Chantré´ rose, that-in your own words- "appears to be available NOWHERE on the planet", is sending the link of the ´Chantré´ rose page in Help Me Find to all of the rose lovers who share this space, where I have recently uploaded three pictures of this magnific cultivar, property of a friend of mine. Hope one day I could grow this beauty, in order to keep walking with the rose conservation project I have started with my grandfather many years ago to re-introduce forgotten-and amost extinguised- "old" modern roses. Of course I am at your entire disposal, hoping you all enjoy these pictures. Yours sincerely, Mariano Saviello (mariano_saviello83@yahoo.com.ar) PS.: Here is the link: http://www.helpmefind.com/plant/pl.php?n=11548. If someone could contact JAXONDEL privately, please send him this message (I am new on it and do not know how to get through to him...is there any "private message" option???). Once more, my warmest regards from Buenos Aires!...See MorePapa Meilland or Red Masterpiece?
Comments (13)Thanks for the additional input. I have considered Crimson Glory for some time, but the questionable staying power and short stems are what have caused me to hesitate. I really am looking for a good, HT smelly rose for cutting. I recently changed jobs (I'm a social worker) and went from 100% computer and phone work in a cubicle to having my own office and seeing clients in it. So I've spruced it up a bit and have a couple decorative large bud vases in it and a small vase for minis on my desk. I want to have fresh cut roses in there as much of the time as possible, so now the cut flower qualities are more important to me than ever. I used to just want nice garden display. Sounds like I really should favor Papa Meilland, here. That means waiting on Hocus Pocus/Black Beauty. But hey! I already have deep red Deep Secret and the nearly black miniflora Memphis Magic. To me, it looks like a 3/4 size Black Beauty. No scent on that one, either. If I get Papa Meilland from Northland Rosarium, I have to get a second rose, and I'm considering either Jardins de Bagatelle for its reputation for fragrance, or Memoire, a white Kordes rose I'd never heard of, but which the American Rose Society Encyclopedia says is highly regarded in many countries, and which has impressive photos on Helpmefind. Or maybe there's another good source for Papa M. that won't require me to buy several roses at once? Any other thought/musings/input is still welcome. Thanks, all. Mike...See MoreCuttings of fragrant masterpiece rose
Comments (1)I don't grow this rose, but it looks lovely. You might not be getting much response because the Clements roses can be hard to find outside of Heirloom. Also, it's not quite past the 20 year mark for being free of patent, so that's the limit of when it's approved to share cuttings of roses. You might try again next year in 2022 when it hits 20 years and see if anyone is growing it. Cynthia...See Moresusan9santabarbara
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