Either l/s or copper is a good dormant spray for grapes. Copper can have long-term ill effects over many years if it builds up in the soil. It may also have shorter-term effects but I never heard of any myself. I have been using copper but am switching to l/s this year due to the long-term buildup issue. If you want to spray both l/s and copper I think its OK to not space much them PROVIDED the vines are dormant. But, there should be no reason to do both sprays; if you need the copper for some particular disease just skip the l/s. This year I am just doing l/s on all my fruit trees except the stone fruits which have had a disease needing copper. So, they are getting copper. Scott

I have seen reports of seedless varieties occasionally producing a seed or two, and rarely, many seeds once, but two years straight seems weird. Have they produced seedless grapes previous to the last two years? If not, then I would suspect they are mis-identified and not really seedless varieties (which would seem very unlikely with so many varieties). If they have been seedless before, then something weird is happening. If these are really seedless varieties, please save the seeds! I know several people who would really be interested in them as many would be from seedless x seedless, which is normally not possible without embryo rescue. Also, has your weather been unusual these past two years during mid to late spring? Unusually hot or cold temps around the time the seeds normally abort could possibly affect the seed development. ~kiwinut

I put a copper spray on my grapes this fall. Mostly because it was already mixed up and going onto the peaches. That's for fungus and fungus doesn't give little cut marks. I do a dormant oil spray on the grapes in the spring. I don't worry about pruning the sprayed branches off because the dormant oil is really cheap. But you could prune first and then spray, as long as the unsprayed trimmings were removed from the property immediately. I like to dormant spray before the grapes wake up and I don't prune until the first buds at the end of the branches start to show color. What is it that you think is giving the little cut marks?

I have lots of seeds to trade. However I'm not looking for other seeds in exchange as I have way more than I'll ever use anyway. I'd trade my seeds for oil painting supplies if possible. I do the Bob Ross style painting mostly. I use just about any kind of oil paints. I'm not picky about brands. I'd also trade for these books by Nicholas Sparks: The Rescue The Wedding A Bend in the Road True Believer I'd also trade for the DVDs of Message in a Bottle and A Walk to Remember and other romance or comedy DVDs that I don't already have. Here are the seeds I have to trade. Most packages contain 20 or more seeds (some contain 100 or 1000 or more). A few contain only 5 or 10 seeds but I've tried to note those. African Daisy Dimorphotheca sinuata Amaranthus  Celosia Cristata  Cockscombs (burgundy) Amaranthus  Celosia Plumosa  PrinceÂs Feathers (Fuscia) Amaranthus  Celosia Plumosa  Fuscia Clusters Amaranthus  Celosia Plumosa  PrinceÂs Feathers (Yellow) Amaranthus Caudatus  Love Lies Bleeding Anagallis Monelli  Blue Pimpernel Basil: Lemon Licorice Bellamcanda  Blackberry Lily, Leopard Lily Bells of Ireland  Molucella Laevis Blackeyed Susans California Poppies Campsis Radicans  Orange Trumpet Vine Canna Seeds (5 seeds per package): Red Stripe Robert Kemp Unknown (could be a mix or just one kind that I forgot to label when I gathered) Centaurea  Bachelor Buttons  mix Clarkia double mix Cleome Serrulata  Rocky Mtn Bee Plant Cleome  Rose Queen Clematis: Sweet Autumn (fall blooming white) Mix of Pink, purple, and white Collinsia Heterophylla  Chinese Houses Columbines (Aquilegia): (20 seeds per package) Caerulea  Rocky Mountain Double Purple Single Purple Lavender-Pink and White bi color Short Pink McKana Giant mix Mix Cosmos  Seashells Cosmos - Daydreams Crepe Myrtle  seeds gathered from Candystriped crape myrtle (may or may not come true from seed) Cuphea Ignea  Cigar Plant  15 seeds Cypress Vine  Red  20 seeds Datura (DevilÂs Trumpets, aka Angels Trumpets): Lilac  white with purple center Belle Blanche  Moonflower  huge fragrant white bloom Daylilies: (10 seeds per pack) Blackeyed Stella Happy Returns Buried Treasure Purple with Green Throat (might be Hamlet)  7 seeds Beautiful Lt Orange (maybe Leeba Orange Crush)  8 seeds Butterscotch Ruffles  6 seeds Mix Dianthus: Annual pinks Barbatus  Sweet William DutchmanÂs Pipe Vine (5 seeds) Echinacea  Magnus Coneflower Formosa Lily  Trumpet Lily  huge fragrant white blooms Four Oclocks - Yellow Foxglove: Pink/Lavendar Excelsior Mix Dwarf Foxy Mix Apricot Beauty Gaillardia  Indian Blanket: Arizona Sun Pulchella Gilia Tricolor  Birds Eyes Gloriosa Daisy  Red and Yellow Gourds: Birdhouse  10 seeds Kettle  15 seeds Canteen  12 seeds Grasses: Japanese Variegated Purple Fountain  Eaton Canyon Hesperis Matronalis  DameÂs Rocket - Violet Hibiscus: Moschuetos  Large white blooms with magenta center Southern Belle  Pink Pink Red Hollyhocks: Alcea Rosea  Indian Spring Mix Assorted Mix Burgundy Lt Delicate Pink Dk Pink Single Bright Pink Hosta: Frances Williams Golden Tiarra Iris  Siberian  mix of blues and purples Koelreuteria Paniculata  Golden Rain Tree Larkspur: Carmine Giant Imperial Liatris Spicata  Gayfeather, Blazing Stars, purple Ligularia Tussilagnea aureomaculata  leopard plant Linum: Grandiflorum rubrum - Scarlet Perenne lewisii - Blue Lotus corniculatus  Birds foot trefoil (not the aquatic lotus plant) Lychnis: Coronaria  Rose Campion Chalcedonica  Maltese Cross Marigold: Crackerjack mix Dwarf French Mix Safari Red Red-Orange Mexican Hats  Ratibida Columnaris  Red and Yellow bicolor Mint - Apple Monarda: Blue Stocking, Herb scented leaves White, Pineapple Scented leaves Citriodora  Lemon Mint Morning Glories: (10 seeds each or more) Tri-lobed, ivy leafed blue ClarkeÂs Heavenly Blue Crimson Rambler Grandpa Otts Milky Way Mix of purple, pink, blue, and white Nasturtiums Jewel Mix Nemophila: Maculata  Five spot Menziesii  Baby Blue Eyes Nigella Damascena Persian Jewels mix Painted Daisy Mix  Chysanthemum Carinatum Pardancanda  Candy Lily mix Perilla  Shiso  beautiful purple leafed, coleus-like herb, scented leaves Phlox Drummondi mix Poppies Mix of doubles and singles Sage  herb Salvia: Coccinea - Scarlet Sage Farincea  Blue Bedder Sage Silene Armeria  Catchfly Snapdragons  Perennial tall pink Snapdragons  Linaria Maroccana  Northern Lights mix Spanish Blue Bells  mix of white and blue Stachys  Lambs Ears Sunflowers - Teddy Bear Tithonia  Mexican Sunflower Touch Me Nots  Impatiens Balsam  Garden Balsam Verbena: Tenulsecta  Moss verbena Bonariensis  Candlestick Viola Tricolor  Johnny Jump Ups Zinnias: California Giants Lilliput Green Envy If interested, let me know in your first email what you have to trade and what you want from me. Then we'll see what we can work out. Thank you for looking.