Wolf vs. Thermador vs. Big Chill vs. SubZero vs Cafe
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Comments (5)I wound up going with all gas to save money. I realized that I don't really cook in a way which required the dual fuel (i.e.; I do most of my cooking range top for instance). Adding a 220 line to my already escalating electrical costs was just too much to handle. I was also told that it takes longer for them to preheat, and for me - this was a consideration as I really dislike waiting around for the oven to come to temperature. Oh and, they really don't cook any faster either. So overall I couldn't justify the difference in price. Also, after weighing the pros and cons of both open and sealed burners, I went with the open. Personal preference for me. From reading up, I think both types will have some issues with cleaning/maintenance so I went with the one which I believe gives better performance. I had wanted a Thermador, but this too went the wayside as the 30" all gas was coming in at $4000 and change. I went with a Viking instead, as this was around $3700, plus they were running a $250 rebate special and, the store was able to discount the Viking another $250, plus I got 5% "builder's discount" off my entire order (I'm in the business). Thermador apparently was more strict with allowing discounts. I guess the Viking came in around $3100 when all was said and done....See MoreWolf DF vs. Thermador Pro Grand DF vs. Miele DF vs. BlueStar ranges
Comments (26)Sorry, just took a look at this thread again and noticed your question...by the time I got to Miele, I had decided on induction, so I didn't give the Miele an actual test drive. I did give it a pretty thorough inspection at the Miele place, though, and thought it was a very sexy range -- and the performance seemed very similar to the Wolf dual fuel. I say that b/c the Miele also has the stacked burners, which I really liked, but the BTUs are higher than Wolf (which top out at around 16k, I believe -- Miele was closer to 20k or so -- I can't quite remember). The Miele ovens on the 48" range were very nice -- the smaller one is a speed oven, and the bigger one is a regular convection. The speed oven wasn't a big plus for me personally, since I really wanted a steam oven as a second oven, but there are people on this forum who love their speed ovens. One thing I really liked about the Miele oven, which Wolf doesn't have, is the burst of steam option, which is great for baking (you can program up to 3 bursts of steam for up to 6 min. each during cooking). I didn't care that much about the MasterChef options on Miele, but again, others love these. At any rate, the Miele seemed very similar to the Wolf, I liked the steam option on the oven better and liked the Miele burners better (also, if you're interested in a grill, theirs was excellent and seemed very similar to the Wolf, which I think is the best in the business). If I had stuck with a range, I would have been very tempted by the Miele....See MoreSub Zero vs Thermador
Comments (72)Back to the topic of the thread! I am also researching new fridge for an upcoming complete kitchen remodel. I had an Amana Kenmore side by side refrig that was a 25 yo work horse when we moved into this house. It did not fit the space allocated and was an almond color that did not go with the other ss appliances. It was relegated to the garage. We bought a new GE Profile ss side by side and that was a huge mistake! It lasted 6 years then froze all the produce every third day requiring me to use my hair dryer to thaw out the back wall of the vegetable bins, a real PINTA! I replaced that with my sister in laws 25 yo Sub zero that she was replacing when she remodeled. I refinished the panels on the doors to match the color of my kitchen and we had to have a repair of the ice maker, about $500. It has been 4 years and that SZ is still running great, very solid. The Amana in the garage has been very loud and we know it is an energy guzzler too, but it was well made never had a repair! We replaced the Amana in the garage with a Samsung FD and it is fine for parties and large trays. Now I do not know what to do about replacing the old sub zero. I really love the side by side and the large space, it is a 48", and I use every inch of it as well as the garage refrig and there are only 2 of us! I buy in bulk, store drinks and freeze vegetables from the garden. The new sub zero same size built in does not have the newer lighting. The interior has more plastic, I like the coated metal baskets on the older model. The integrated SZ has better lighting but is way more expensive. The Thermador is nice, better lighting than SZ BI, plastic bins same as SZ but with a fake metal finish on the edges not sure how that will wear. The Thermador integrated columns same price almost as SZ BI. NO water in refrig NO door dispensers for me. If I buy new SZ BI I can canabolize the interior shelves and baskets and use in new fridge I think. That won't help the lighting but I can live with that if new model functions for 25 plus years! The Thermador is nice but if the issues others have reported regarding noise, leaking, reliability etc are more than just reported on GW that would be an expensive mistake. Anyone bought a subzero in the last few years and have you had problems? How about the Thermador how does the finish on the shelf edges and freezer racks hold up? Maintenance issues on either? Thanks...See More36” Fridge over Freezer: Thermador vs SubZero
Comments (0)Fridge over Freezer: Space is an issue and I loved our Fridge over Freezer for our old house. Need help choosing between these two (or others you LOVE). Thermador T36BB920SS 36-INCH STAINLESS STEEL BUILT-IN 2-DOOR BOTTOM FREEZER https://www.thermador.com/us/products-list/refrigeration/bottom-freezer-refrigerators/T36BB920SS Or SubZero: IT-36CI 36” DESIGNER OVER/UNDER REFRIGERATOR/FREEZER WITH ICE MAKER https://www.subzero-wolf.com/sub-zero/full-size-refrigeration/integrated-fridges/36-inch-integrated-over-under-refrigerator-freezer-ice-maker-panel-ready Any comments/suggestions/watchouts on these two models?...See MoreJoseph Babcock
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