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Officially, you do need to bring the room up to code if you are doing any electrical work (though of course plenty of people do lighting work under the radar to avoid the requirements, but this could come back to bite you if you plan to sell or do other work some time soon, since the fines for unpermitted work are pretty steep...and worse, they can make you rip it out and do it all over!) However, there are lots of lights besides just fluorescents that meet Title 24 requirements, so you might check out LED and other options, as suggested above. And if you really want xenon, you could also go ahead with those sans permits and plan to replace your other kitchen lighting with energy-efficient lighting at some point in the future to bring it into compliance that way instead. If you're just replacing undercabinet lights and not doing any other work on your kitchen or electrical, you can probably skip permits and no one will notice/care. If you're doing it as part of more extensive lighting work or a kitchen renovation, I'd do it to code, though. Here is a link that might be useful: More info on Title 24

I have to disagree with the statement about Mush making a big scene, I didn't find this post to be hurtful or hysterical or "drama queen" material. I would prefer to read that someone is leaving for a while rather than worry about her sometime in the future. And she's right- this forum IS different, we've all pretty much agreed on that point. I don't recall anyone insisting that we need to all agree about everything all the time, that would be an unreasonable expectation and unwanted, too. On the other hand, I don't think it's too much to ask for people to be polite or tactful, instead of rude or hurtful or tenacious to the point of obnoxiousness. That's my point about presentation. When Mom said "nobody likes a know-it-all", she was right. But hey, this is just what I think. I know everyone is not the same and we don't all have the same temperament and feelings are going to be hurt occasionally. I would hope it would be accidentally, instead of on purpose, though.

stickman42 - You can do that. From the front page of the forum, over on the right side next to Latest Activity, choose the middle block. This will change your layout to show a photo (if there is one) next to the title of the thread. Under the tiles will be the name of the person who started the thread and when it was started, as well as the date. It will also list the number of comments. Below that it will list the name of the last person to make a comment and when the comment was made, along with the first two lines of the comment. If you click on this comment, it will bring you to the bottom of the thread.