Who would have thought vanilla would be a life goal for so many?

Cheap vanilla at that. No carefully scraped bourbon vanilla pods, sweet cream and organic eggs here.

Yellow floors were always necessary. Oil finish does that. Water based gives us another option. The examples above aren't all grey on my monitor. Some are light, pale brown. Much better than yellow, red and orange for me.

Marketing is an amazing thing. Call something "luxury" and all of a sudden...

Engineered hardwood is coming in these shades in 7 to 11 inch wide plank. Search French Oak or European Oak. Some Chines product is likely Russian oak. There are also SPC core planks with hardwood veneer instead of vinyl.

Well, when it comes to countertops made of laminate, the alternative is more durable. When you are talking vinyl floors, the alternative is generally less durable - ok wood is durable but can look like crap pretty quickly depending upon lifestyle.

Preferences change and that is generally a good thing.

Also, no one complains that standing on their granite countertop hurts their feet and back (in case someone wanted to make the argument that tile was plenty durable).

You can realize the "luxury" part of the description is silly but still like LVP in the right situation.

I would argue that there is little value in snobbery about certain materials. There are going to be different opinions. Get over it.

I imagine many people were appalled by all the stainless steel appliances 30 years ago. Funny how most have come around. Yeah, yeah, color is better. But you don't find it in entry level flips for a reason.

I have a little grey tone in my mostly yellow engineered wood flooring but seeing grey LVP on an airbnb listing means the floor is relatively new - and that has value to me.

I despise grey anything (didn't like it in the 80's either), especially LVP. Natural materials are always best.

If it's real wood, something like French Oak, it doesn't bother me.

And I don't mind vinyl as a material. But I like site finished floors that are a consistent color.

I also really dislike the super cold 4000k or higher lighting trend. There is a reason they call it " in the cold light of day". There are two grey kitchens with cold LED lighting in my neighborhood and it's like looking into a public parking facility.

I'd rather have 20 years of mauve from the 80s than another day of gray.

Flippers in my town are not only graying up every floor, wall, and bath/kitchen surface, but also painting over every interior and exterior brick and stone they see.

Or limewashing … which usually looks like a giant bottle of typewriter correction fluid exploded all over it when they’re done.

At least floors and other elements can be changed. These houses (many 100+ yrs old, or mid-century Roman bricks) are being defaced and ruined forever by this thoughtless fad.

ETA: Agree on the ultra bright and cold lighting. Terrible.

Some of the higher quality grey interiors may go through a period of being terribly dated and eventually be appreciated for their vintage charm but many of these materials will be too cheap to last that long.

"I also really dislike the super cold 4000k or higher lighting trend. There is a reason they call it " in the cold light of day"."

I also, Yet there is a "pro" on here that is what she promotes no matter what.

"I also really dislike the super cold 4000k or higher lighting trend. There is a reason they call it " in the cold light of day".

Me three!! Give me good ol' 3000K and I'm happy. No, actually I'm happy when it's 3000K halogen, not LED. To my eye, halogen is a better quality light. There is someone else on the board (don't remember who) who doesn't like LED, either, so it's not just me. Unfortunately, halogen is now in the process of being permanently phased out. Sigh....

I even like 2700 in living and bedroom.

Plus actually the CRI is really more important than temperature.

It really pains me when I have a client who asks for a gray backsplash, to go with the gray cabinets and gray floor. Gray can be a great neutral backdrop to the use of other colors. When it is in the hands of the less experienced, it tends to be done to excess, cheaply, with the wrong materials for the application. The number of people who have already invested $6 a square foot into gray vinyl planks before we even talk is staggering. For just a bit more, they could have had a good quality engineered wood, that would last for decades. The #1 thing I hear though is "wood scratches and is easily damaged by my kids and pets". And I am floored by that almost universal social media influenced opinion that is directly opposite of generations of reality. Plus, what kind of lack of respect for a really expensive purchase is baked into all of that? Just do the cheapest thing possible, because you'll get tired of everything and can throw it away?

People have had wood floors, children and pets (and other animals) inside houses for centuries. Have dogs and children gotten that much more destructive since the year 2000?

And having lived in several places with old wood floors, sometimes beat up wood floors, a beat up wood floor looks better than a laminate or vinyl floor that only has minimal damage.

@palimpsest the reason that so many dislike wood floors is that they (gasp!) eventually look lived in. It's the same reason that they don't want marble--everything needs to look pristine and perfect forever. The dirty secret is that even if these materials don't wear out, they eventually "ugly out," as one of my design teachers used to say. At least wood and marble can be refinished many times over to look like new if that's what you like.

And I am one of those who absolutely detests LED lighting. I'm stocking up on incandescent and halogen bulbs as fast as I can, but I can't imagine that someone somewhere won't still be making and selling them. Between this and the worship of electric cars, it's ecofascism.

Every time I look in the mirror I see something that looks "lived in", and I am not willing to replace it with plastic. I worked too hard to get this grey hair, wrinkles, and scars. I do not think it will ugly out, I think it is a warm and inviting look.

I suspect that LEDs will improve over time, just like pretty much every other tech we've ever had. That's not fascism; that's the relentless march of progress.

"I suspect that LEDs will improve over time, just like pretty much every other tech we've ever had."

They can start with fixing the d*mn dimmer incompatibility problem!! And before someone says "you need to look at the specs to find a compatible dimmer" read what happened in my house just recently: Had *the exact same dimmer switches* installed in the kitchen, foyer, and hallway, which were chosen because the undercabinet lights buzzed with the original dimmers I put in the kitchen. Finally got everything worked out in there -- replaced the dimmers, no buzzing with can lights or overheads. Ok, great....NOT. Because the hallway buzzed -- with the *exact same can bulbs* and the *exact same dimmer* WTF!?!?! I ended up putting halogens in the hallway to solve the problem, I don't leave those on so will be a while before they burn out, and I have a few spares.

I'm all for progress and saving the environment, but taking everything but LEDs off the market isn't the way to go, people should have choices. I don't like the light quality of LEDs as much as halogen (or incandescent), but worse is it can make people physically uncomfortable or ill -- I have read reports of people getting headaches from LEDs. I have very acute hearing and can pick up buzzing other people have told me they can't hear -- I can't take the buzzing, even if it's faint enough where others can't hear it, it's enough to make me want to take a sledgehammer to the light fixtures. That is not progress in my book.

I'm not a fan of gray but I did stain my site finished white oak floors in our beach house gray and they look awesome! The only time I'm offended by gray in others' homes is when it's used with warm permanent fixtures like gray walls in a honey oak kitchen. And luxury vinyl flooring isn't my favorite but it looks nice; if you need a new floor and that's what's in the budget, then why not?

I have hardwood through most of the house, but I did put in LVT in a small bathroom off the hallway because I was just looking to do an inexpensive bathroom refresh and wanted something to put on top of the butt-ugly blue tile floor to buy some time until a full remodel. It looks nice, but there is no way it can be mistaken for wood, nice as it is -- it doesn't feel or sound the same under foot.

I really don't mind grey, but I need it offset with with colour - preferably a golden oak floor.

No, no, no, I cannot take any more grey! I generally hate the “newly updated and move in ready” homes. I’m looking to buy and right now there are 4 homes in my (very small) ideal area that have these ubiquitous and boring updates. All are overpriced and even though the floor plans will work for me, I’m not interested in buying what looks like homes flipped by amateurs. I’m hoping that their being on the market for months is a sign that people realize this is just not a good thing to do anymore.

I have nothing against vinyl per se, and have specified LVT back when you could had more choices that looked sorta like site finished--all one tone, instead of something that looks like weathered shipping pallets.

I still like VCT. I am putting this in my house.

A few years ago, I was in my hometown grade school and it has the same vinyl tile flooring that was installed in the building in 1952 and it looks great. Some weird colors, but it looks brand new.

mxk3 z5b_MI One area works fine. One area with the same lights and dimmer buzzes. I'd swap the switches. If the buzzing in the hall stops, you have a defective switch. If it continues you have a defective light. Find the fault.

Obviously people are looking for different things than i am. give me well loved red oak 100 year old floors any day over grey lvp. but i think 1953 is the newest building i have ever lived in. otherwise 1890s, 20s, 40s… i like warm and natural and can’t wait for this dreaded grey trend to be over. the realestate agents are repainting every house grey on resale and i find it depressing. at least when it’s inside other peoples homes it doesn’t bother me!