What are these pods on the clematis vines?

last year

This spring I moved plants from their original location at the corners of my house as the rootballs of each plant outgrew the confined soil area I put them in years ago. I then cut each one in half & replanted some on the side of my house (in the chicken wire & scrapwood pic) and 2 in a small rectangle 'birdbath garden' in hopes that they would eventually cover my various leftover trellis structures from other projects - which they did.

I expected lots of flowers but only have tons of pods on the birdbath vines.

I can't recall ever seeing these pods before.

What are they? The birds eat them from time to time.

As you can see, the 'other half' of the plants (chicken wire) have bloomed but are not growing well. All plants get 10+ hours of sun & I water all equally.

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callirhoe123

last year

GG is correct. As I said, only one of them is clematis. Silver Lace vine would be my guess as well.

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callirhoe123
last year
Try to get a picture that is in focus. Don't know what you are growing but it doesn't look like clematis.
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last year
They are clematis, otherwise I wouldn't say they were...

One of the 'parent' plants that I cut in half.

The pods on the other 'half' of one of the relocated plants.

I'm amazed at how much these have grown with almost the same amount of sun & water (miracle grow dirt for all). The shadow on this plant is from my shed but the other 'end' of the bed is in full sun & both plants have the same growth rate while the ones on the side of the house have hardly grown at all.
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
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The first photo indicates clematis.......but #2 and 3 are most definitely not! Looks much more like forming flower buds (and heart shaped leaves) of silver lace vine, Polygonum aubertii, which typically has a fall rebloom.
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Original Author
last year
Ok, one more time before I attempt to find a different forum.

I removed my clematis plant from their old locations where there were no other plants. I then cut them in half & replanted them in brand new/newly made/created locations.

Is that clear enough?

If you don't know what these different growths are and/or have never encountered such a thing before, then remain quiet in your useless opinion...
gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
last year
If you don't like the answers, maybe you should find a different forum!! You don't get to pick and choose who responds and if you weren't so unpleasantly closed minded, you might actually learn something. I don't much care what you think you planted, but photos 2 and 3 are simply not clematis - no way, no how!!!

I used to work for a wholesale clematis grower and I am more familiar with this genus than most. Have also personally grown more than a 100 different clems over the years and there are some blatantly obvious deviations from clematis showing in your last two photos. 1) the vine showing does not have opposite foliage (as all clematis do) and the leaves are individual and not in leaflets (typically 3). They are also not the shape of typical clematis foliage. It is also climbing via stems (like a morning glory), not leaf petioles.

2) NO clematis produces flowers in racemes. Individually, sometimes in clusters, but never with extended flowering spikes. And if they don't flower in spikes, they will not produce seed pods in that form. Not that those look remotely like any kind of clematis seed pod.
callirhoe123
last year
You should be glad to find the truth rather than attacking people who are trying to help/
floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
last year
You do have some Clematis, but you definitely also have another vine. I believe the ’pods’ are the flowers and fruit of Black Bindweed, Fallopia convolvulus, which is closely related to Silver Lace Vine. I suggest you use an image and name search to compare your ’pods’ with the suggested plants before dismissing our responses. By all means choose to disbelieve us, but it isn’t necessary to insult forum members members who are giving freely of their wide knowledge and experience.
NHBabs z4b-5a NH
last year
And although it is quite a while after the original post, I will add that in my area, Fallopia tends to seed about freely courtesy of birds, etc. Yes there are clematis there, but nothing prevents other plants from seeding in, likely here from a bird that perched on the trellis.
LaLennoxa 6a/b Hamilton ON
last year
Looks like OP has left the building, taking their clematis laced with bindweed with them!