You are still learning a lot about the larger contextual concerns. In the previous thread you told everyone that you do not want to see the kitchen sink when you are in the living room. That came about after I asked for it. Until then nobody had asked about views. Many people are so concerned about being courteous and respectful that they won't broach a topic which may be important. Duh. If you are willing to put on hold everything you think you know and you think you've decided, you can look at these subjects that I call "bigger" concerns. Your aisle is too wide. No matter how big or slender you may be, the aisle is too wide. People with long legs find an aisle as wide as yours to be too wide. As an aisle it's too much. It's a bad use of space in a kitchen. It's wasted space in a condo. In a condo storage is key. Your decision to buy from a specific cabinet company may be wise or unwise: it has to be put on hold, put on the back burner, kept lukewarm for a while, during which time you simulate some ideas. Later if you get a sense for some new advantage, you could go back to that cabinet company and see what they would make for that need. Or for one piece of the "cabinetry" you might elect to buy something NOT made by your decided-upon cabinet company. Go figure, you might end up with one piece not from your chosen supplier. Overall your answer is a good answer. Glad to have been of help. As to what I wrote earlier in this thread and in the previous one, Now, if I told you to implement the parts you are willing to, would this elicit cooperation or rebellion? "Implement" means to draw in the simulation, not to make decisions. One key point I have made previously is to look first at the floor plan, in the big-picture sense, and not look at finer-grained detail such as the placement of appliances under the counter. Not yet; wait until... Your design subject is the floor plan of the half of the condo from the front door to the back corner where the laundry is. The space inside the kitchen footprint is where new stuff will be bought and installed, but "subject under review" = Whole Floor Plan, from front door (view) to the back corner. In the image posted at the top of this thread your kitchen sink and faucet would be visible from your front door, but nobody reading this thread will ever know it until you display the entire floor plan. My asking to see the whole-house floor plan is a good step (not a hoop). You did post it in the previous thread, but your not posting it here is not good, because the contextual information that it provides is missing. Yeah, we all know that "everybody" will read the previous thread. The simulation you drew at the top of the thread does not include my ideas from the previous thread, so I wrote out some of those ideas and a few more, more clearly than ever before. Saying something more than once helps to ensure people catch it. Previously you had not caught some of what I was saying. Overexplaining is being ultraclear. Take the pieces you like and use them. Going back to the previous thread, you will see that someone other than rosie told you to draw a deep counter, and you resisted. If you are distributing thanks, that person needs to be thanked. I think you did do this. Many others posted for you to consider options, and you resisted a great deal until you relented. Very normal. Stop resisting, and you will adopt more ideas more easily, the very same ideas that you will accept after a lot of resistance. You choose whether to receive ideas easily or with pain. You may also adopt them temporarily for consideration during an interval of a few days when people are interacting bout these ideas. Instead, you post back to say you resist. A futile exercise. They are just ideas and these posts are just simulations. There are many ways in which you could have leaned over anything 30" or 36". Other pieces of furniture. Any open space of that dimension; no need for furniture. Some people resist so much, that they need to have a 36" piece of flat brought home by their spouse so that they can simulate With This New Toy, instead of seeing for themselves first. For some resistive personalities, the learning curve is long, slow, hard, painful and necessarily means rejecting certain people's suggestions. Glad to play this necessary role. Now, in the future, let ideas be dealt with for a few days or a week, publicly. In the image simulation, implement the portions you wish to implement, instead of writing out paragraphs of resistance. For the purpose of simulation in the next version I thought unfittedness as a concept would help a lot. It may be the case that you don't know how to read me. That is fine. The style is direct and supposedly knows what you will want, but is not to be taken as though I have any proof or evidence of knowing who you are. It helps to get past the confusion, and to elicit a useful response. Resisting my "set of ideas" helps you be assertive. If that is a necessary stage, fine, you'll go through this stage. Others will help; it's not going to be me at all times, and I won't play majordomo coordinator or run interference. Instead of deeming it to be hoops, you could deem it not a big deal to draw something. You have the software, you know how to implement something, label it, post it to the web and link to it. Yes, it is a big deal when one feels ready to move on to a subsequent stage... Explaining why you must resist could be seen as a good exercise if it helps reveal more of your personal situation that will be relevant information for the design process. For whoever else helps you, for you too, for me too, etc. I think you can be assertive without being resistive. Hth

Thanks robotropolis -- I DO need some hand-holding. That's why I have you all ;) Seriously though, I thought I was doing well with the cabinet designers. They seemed to know what they were doing. But when I asked where the electrical outlets would be in the island, they seemed shocked. I said I needed electrical for small appliances, and they said they could put one under the counter where the stools are. I responded that I like to use an immersion blender at the cooktop and they looked blank-faced. Has no one ever asked for electrical in an island?? Do they not know what an immersion blender is? Then they told me that an oven stack with an oven, steam oven & speed oven wouldn't be tall and they showed me their sample wall. I am 5'3, the 2 cabinet designers are similar height. We walked over the the oven stack, and they tried to show me that it's fine. I then asked them to take off their 5 inch heels (this is S.Fla) and try again. They then had to admit they would have to reach above their heads to get stuff out of the top oven. Adorable girls & very nice, but NOT cooks! Lavender -- The undercounter stools at the island really were intended for me (and perhaps a helper) to sit at while prepping, not for eating, so the table wouldn't be redundant. Having said that, and considering robo's comments about not leaving doors open in the heat/humidity, I agree that it makes sense to combine the seating into the island. We are a family of 5 (although kids are grown), so 5 stools at the island and getting rid of the separate table would work. I could put a larger table outside for the times that the weather is good and we want to eat out there -- we tend to eat outside during holidays when the kids bring friends home, so a larger outdoor table, sitting horizontal to the kitchen might work. I like where you put the sink closer to the glass sliders. It takes it out of the way of the cooktop/frig. It's farther from the dining room, but clearing the table would be easier in a sense because we would walk from the DR to the sink outside of the island aisle (closer to the pool). I'm going to explore making the glass sliders smaller and perhaps incorporating a window above the sink -- not so low that the grill outside would be too visible, but low enough that the person standing at the sink would have a nice view. Interesting.

Ok, you have loads of good ideas going already. I'm on the road these days without access to my design software so I can't help much just now, but I will throw into the mix that we have an 18" dw for a family of 3 and it works out JUST fine. Most days we just fill it and run it once at night (and I like that I'm using less energy and water by running a FULL dw). Sure, after a dinner party it would be nice to have a bigger unit, but in general, the 18" is more than adequate (and VERY MUCH more adequate than the 0" dishwasher - that is, none at all! - we had before the remodel!) Also, a slightly OT question which I've been wondering for a while now: why in general are 18" dw's considered a step DOWN and a 24" DW drawer (which, if I'm doing the math right, probably holds less than the 18"er) is considered a luxury item? I haven't managed to figure that out yet!!

Not a pro. Just "food for thought": If the room is small and your impression of it is dark, consider painting it all white or off white or another pale color. Lighter color for bedding with a pair of matching pillow shams would also lighten the room while making it feel more complete. On a full sized bed, you could choose a queen bed spread, preferably reversible, and it would likely cover the bed frame, too -- but you might need to stitch or pin up the bottom corners or tuck them under the mattress. Two extra shams that coordinate but not match -- two solids and either two different solid colors or two print could help complete the decorating look. If you like the mountain picture, see if you can choose a solid color from with that picture for your bedding and a second color for within the second pillow shams. When you cannot have a pair of nightstands, you might consider a (bed width or a pair of smaller) box shelf -- a shelving board DIY project, with or without the back -- https://www.homedit.com/box-shelves/ and you could certainly put art over box shelves unless your headboard is high. In a small room, you might even consider not using a headboard or foot board ... just a metal frame with wheels/casters so it can be easily moved to enable you to walk around the bed to more easily make the bed. Adding casters to your night stand(s) could help with them moving them for cleaning, too. on the wall over the head of the bead for a (preferably all metal w/adjustable goose neck) clamp light or two https://www.lampsplus.com/products/black-adjustable-gooseneck-arm-headboard-clip-lamp__74412.html and an alarm clock and/or cell phones and charger -- things you'd ordinarily keep on your night stand. Sometimes a floor lamp table combo might fit where a night stand would not -- but if you choose one, make sure it is heavy/sturdy enough not to easily tip over. https://www.google.com/search?q=narrow+floor+lamp+table+combo&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwizn7-sj5nqAhXslHIEHYGFByIQ_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1366&bih=654i Choose mid-large white lamp shades to let out as much light as possible. Take a close look at your night stands and see if they could be stacked (held together with a vertical board on the back of both the length/height of the backs of the stands) might be possible if the legs of one is removed and then they could be used for lingerie storage rather than as a night stand. Over the inside of the bedroom door shoe racks might help with a place to store those. Pics would be needed for more suggestions from the Houzz pros.