Dimmer results at last! A $45: CE retrofit with PAR lens from HD 3000K B $38: CE retrofit with BR lens from HD 3000K C $35: Feit retrofit with flat lens from Menards 3000K D $25: Feit bulb and baffle from Menards ($16+$9) 2700K I tested with a Lutron Diva LED Dimmer. Here's what I found... They all advertised dimmable to 5%. Yeah, right! They got nowhere close to 5%. I'd say the worst went 100%-50% and the best went 100%-30%. This is just by eye. I certainly didn't need them to go to 5%, just interesting that they advertised that they do that. 5% of 800 lumens would be 40 lumens, aka a tiny night light -- they didn't go that far. The bulb I liked least before (the Home Depot model, B in the list) is still the worst. It puts out the least light and dims the least. The other ones did better... The Home Depot PAR light and the Menards Retrofit were both "good"... they dimmed down to I'd say about 40% The one that dimmed the best was the cheap Feit bulb. It had the largest range -- I'd say it went down to about 30%. Overall, I was surprised that the Menards brand outperformed the Home Depot Brand in every test. So my model choices are easy. The Feit retrofit kit where I have new cans going in and the Feit Performance bulb where I have existing rework. Hope that helps anyone interested!

Davidtay, thanks again for your response. So with your input on 90 degrees, it sounds like what I have in mind should work. I also talked to the dealer, but he had a difficult time visualizing my concept. I don't know if I am being clear about this mirror/light idea as I've posted in this thread. For those that would like more information on my idea, imagine a small table top that is an inch thick. Then imagine that I wrap the periphery with a lighting strip, (like a hat band around a hat), mounting it so it will shine out sideways from the table top. This is what I want to do with an oval piece of plywood that is a bit smaller in diameter than my oval mirror. I want to mount the mirror on this oval that is mounted and hard wired to the 12v system. The result would be my mirror would have a back light that would have light shining out sideways from around the circumference of the oval plywood. So there should be no sharp bends, just a curve around. I still wonder if it would look goofy or over the top with respect to "lighting gimmicks". Just because I can do it, doesn't mean I should do it. If anyone else has any thoughts on this idea, I'd be happy to hear you.

It looks similar to my "Off white" just painted and which I really like. Link is from Houz showing many uses and lighting. A bit of help until others post. Here is a link that might be useful: [Grecian Ivory[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/sherwin-williams-grecian-ivory-phbr0lbl-bl~l_54715)

Lynn, I suggest you try both the Cree LR6 and the Cree CR6. We tried both in our house and pulled out the LR6s and replaced them with the CR6 lights. The CR6 lights are actually less expensive than the LR6 lights but they dim much lower than the LR6 lights. The specs don't show a big difference in dimming but I can tell you the difference is very substantial. Also, the LR6 lights are more sensitive to the type of dimmers used, and we tried a number of different dimmers from the list recommended by Cree before finding ones that were satisfactory. The Home Depot Cree lights are rebadged CR6s, but they may have changed some of the components because the lifetime is 30,000 hours (I think) instead of the 50,000 hours with CR6 lights from Cree. See below for a good place to buy. Billy Here is a link that might be useful: Good Place for Cree Lights