When does two or three in a hole equal, 'One Unhappy Baby Huey'?
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Comments (74)MRclint - I agree this isnt the world of my "father" ( I guess in my example it would be Grandpa). Things were simpler then, but I personally cant say I have no problems with how they did things, because theyre responsible for many ecological problems we face now - The people today just grow up in the same ignorance IMO (people generally of course ) Drew - Flowering plants evolved before grasses. There is evidence of flowering plants from as far back as 150 MYA. Grasses, in the current forms are recent, at least in their global dominance. Flowering plants were dominant at eh end of the cretaceous, and grasses (as in graminoids) Started to show up at this time (there is evidence of grasses in dino dung) Also, according to "the nature of things" - The disease has been found in S america, but NOT colombia. There is a farmer who is growing new cavandish types from seed, hand pollinating tens of thosuands of trees by hand, and only getting one seed in 5000 -10 000 fruits.... THe problem in that case is monoculture/too many of the exact plant in one area. If you put someone who is sick in a room crammed with people, others will get sick. Pests dont have to go far with growing systems like this, because there are literally acres of the same plant. I believe the problem here is similar. Multi tree holes, will spread diseases around in a climate in which that disease thrives. Again there is also some evidence some trees roots will not tolerate this too much (ie Cherry roots "running away" from each other). THe version ive heard of this method is not done with the same tree specie. Its usually done with a nitrogen fixing tree and/or a "support" specie ( one that can shade and help the long term tree grow, in areas with less then ideal conditions). One example was a black walnut, supported by a russian olive in penny livingstons permaculure garden in New Mexico. The olive protected the walnut from the harsh sun, while providing nitrogen to the soil. The russian olive is short lived, and although its tolerant of jugalone, after a decade or so it will eventually succumb to it, as well as the shade from the walnut....See MoreHow do you prevent takeover by Dr. Huey?
Comments (36)I'm quite a bit older than BassandBonsai, but I was noticing a similar pattern as I was reading this thread. It seems to me that it is mainly Californians who despise Dr. Huey, complaining that he too easily takes over and suckers a lot. Almost everyone non-Californian and Zone 6 and further north claims not to have any of those problems, or very rarely at best. I'm sure it's possible that there are Californians somewhere that haven't had Dr. Huey problems, as well as Zone 6 and further north gardeners who have experienced too many Dr. Huey problems. However, they aren't appearing here on our GW thread. So what do you think? Any validity to my observation here that it is only, or maybe primarily, Californians who have problems with Dr. Huey? If so, I'd be curious to find out WHY. What is there about California weather, soil, growing conditions, whatever, that makes Dr. Huey too vigorous and overpowering and excessively suckering? And if it is true that this is a primarily California problem, then maybe it is NOT true the death/near death of the more tender top plant is the main cause of why a Dr. Huey take-over occurs (though that is definitely the main and perhaps only way the take-over tends to occur in Zone 6 and further north). Since I have never grown roses in California, I can say nothing about that experience. But I can definitely state that in the midwest, Zone 6, I bury the grafts a couple inches and that I have never had anything sucker nor any rose get overpowered by Dr. Huey. Whether there is or is not a connection, I don't know, but I have been growing some of my roses for 15 or more years. The only exception to that rule in my yard (midwest Zone 6) is what happened before I moved here. I'm told a woman used to live here who was a wonderful gardener--and I still have legacies of some of her accomplishments growing in my garden. However, the one legacy I got rid of were several Dr. Hueys. Whether she was growing Dr. Huey or Dr. Huey took over after she left and no one cared for her gardens, I couldn't say. By the way, I did let her Dr. Hueys grow a couple years here--I was curious about them. Found out they are gorgeous in their springtime bloom and wretched plants the rest of the year. They no longer live here, needless to say. : ) Kate...See MoreI've been nurturing Dr. Huey!
Comments (12)A case of: "when he's good, he's oh so very good and when he's bad, he is horrid", I suppose. Where I live now I'm really appreciating its tolerance of alkaline soil. And it makes such a good rootstock here. The bark is easy to peel up to stick buds, it heals & supports them well, buds "push" vigorously on it, it roots easily... It's probably as hard for me to understand the loathing of Dr. Huey as it is for folks in other zones to imagine me actually paying for Dr. Huey rootstock. sticks. Love this little poem occasionally posted here--I'm so sorry I can't recall the author: Big Box Surprise I am a little coffin rose My roots are very short I sat for months upon the shelf I tried to be a sport The picture on my narrow bag Shows I am very yellow I like the sun; I like the rain I'm quite a handsome fellow She took me home and wet me down And trimmed my moldy roots I sulked for weeks without a bud And then I threw long shoots I looked around at all my kind So orange and gold and mellow I'd be the center of the show The perfect spot for yellow The sun burst forth and out I came With buds so round and dewy I'd played a trick on everyone Ha ha, I'm Dr Huey Mary...See Moresoap dispensers - one or two
Comments (14)We talked about putting in two dispensers like you...one for hand and one for dish soap. However, we realized that while a stationary hand soap dispenser is fine, we prefer to have our dish soap mobile--so we can squirt the soap exactly where we want it, use it in BOTH bowls, etc. Several people have two dispensers and one comment was that guests had to "guess" which one was for hand soap. At least one person solved that problem, though, by putting a smiley face on her hand soap dispenser and she said everyone knew that had to be the hand soap! So, I suggest you think about how you use your dish soap... (1) do you like to squirt it in particular places in pans, etc. or do you not care where it goes? (2) do you mind that to use it you will always have to bring the pan/dish to the dispenser and the soap will only dispense on the edge? (3) do you have a 1-bowl or 2-bowl sink? If 2-bowl, you will only be able to dispense soap into the bowl it's behind. The answer to these questions should help you decide on whether to put in one or two dispensers. HTH!...See MoreMoses, Western PA., zone 5/6, USA
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