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Gabriel Oak - 2nd Year

Hoang Ton - Zone 9a

2 years ago

The blooms are quite larger than last year's blooms. They are slightly larger than James L Austin's blooms. Its flowering power is clearly not as good as Eustacia Vye but I still like it. I was hoping for a deeper color like seen in the catalog but I know it's climate related.

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Hoang Ton - Zone 9a
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2 years ago

straw, so far they both have medium scents but i don't know how to describe it, i know boscobel was in its 3rd year before it could put out a strong fragrance

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strawchicago z5
2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago
Thank you for your amazing video that shows bush-shots of very healthy roses. Gabriel Oak is on my wish list. I have too many light pinks, and not enough dark pinks. Own-root Pretty Lady Rose has similar color but died through my zone 5a winter (doesn't like my heavy rain). I aim for the deepest color since colors are faded in my dense & heavy clay.

How is the scent of Gabriel Oak compared to Eustacia Vye? Thank you.
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Yulia_6a_Michigan
2 years ago
Beautiful! And your videos are very relaxing and a joy to watch. Now you got me even more excited to see how my Gabriel Oak will do in his 2nd year.
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Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
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Beautiful rose, but then all of yours are.

Between Gabriel and James do you like one better than the other ?
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Hoang Ton - Zone 9a
Original Author
2 years ago
Kristine, so far James L has more flowering power but no fragrance, they both handle the heat very well, but if i have to pick one, then gabriel oak just because of the fragrance advantage
rosecanadian
2 years ago
Oh wow!!!! Talk about gorgeous, stunning blooms!! I'm in love with the color!!! Thanks for talking about the fragrances. GORGEOUS!!!!
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Diane Brakefield
2 years ago
Hoang Ton, I wasn't prepared for such huge, beautiful, petal packed blooms on Gabriel Oak. So he has exceeded my expectations--your rose, anyway, which doesn't surprise me since all your roses are so lovely. You mentioned wanting a deeper color, perhaps. I was going to suggest Young Lycidas, but I don't think YL's blooms are so large and petal packed as Gabriel's. YL also has lax canes, but I like that in the spot where he grows. I'm still waiting for Double Easy Orange--hahaha. Diane
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Hoang Ton - Zone 9a
Original Author
2 years ago
Diane, thank you for the suggestion I'll check it out, Double Easy Orange is still on schedule lol, it hasn't grabbed my attention so far this year that's why....
strawchicago z5
2 years ago
last modified: 2 years ago
Hoang Ton: Thank you for info. about scent. Still kick myself for buying own-root Princess Anne instead of Boscobel years ago .. just because someone reported zero scent on Boscobel. I didn't get any scent from my 11th-year own-root Christopher Marlowe until its 2nd year.

Many thanks to your tip of air-pot for high-rain climate, I bought GROW-GREEN 11.8In x 15.7In (Diameter x Height) 7 Gallon 6-Pack Plastic Air Pruning Pots with Saucer (13.5 inch saucer) for $60 today. Last Oct. my own-root Pretty Lady Rose lost all its leaves in week-long rain in my zone 5a in a dinky plastic pot.

Last year I got 5 large trees chopped down, and tree roots haven't decomposed for digging, so I'll grow roses in pots first, before transferring into the ground. Every time I transfer roses from plastic pots into the ground, I always lose roots. Air-pot would make it easier.

I look forward to growing Vietnamese Thai Basil in Air-pot. The Thai Basil which I grew in a fast draining spot was 4 times bigger than the one in poor drainage clay, plenty to eat with VN beef noodle soup.
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Mamaham_NC_Zone7
2 years ago
I like that you show the entire shrub. so many times if you search for a plant, all the photos are just of the flower. its good to see the entire plant to know how to encorporate into the landscape.
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