clematis in pot with rose?
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Have small Clematis in 4' pots, should I move up to larger pot?
Comments (8)I agree with Janet and as she well knows I have beating this drum for several years now. The old adage of heads in the sun and feet in the shade is an old wives tale. Moisture is what is required and that typically occurs when the roots are shaded since it slows down the evaporation of the water in the soil and the consistent moisture is the critical element, along with appropriate fertilization. For what it is worth, I have potted up countless numbers of clematis into one gallon sized pots and left them in the sun where they get morning sun thru midafternoon sun and they have been fine. One definite advantage of sinking the pots in the ground is that you won't have to water the pots as much since the soil will act as an insulator to the desication of moisture from the potting mix. Just make sure that the surrounding soil drains well or your pots could hold too much moisture and cause root rot....See Morere-potting Clematis integrifolia 'Blue Boy' and 'Blue Bell'
Comments (8)Thanks for your comments gardengal - especially a propos since we're close geographically, and it looks like you have oodles of experience. One of the reasons I didn't want to yet place in the ground is because of comfrey growing behind the roses - well, now up through ÂePeaceÂf as well, sigh. 'Peace' seems to be suffering for it, and/or maybe for other reasons. The roses have a fair bit of blackspot; I'd prefer better access until (?if!) I get that under better control. Have just now pruned most of the dead bits, and will gradually prune more, after blooms, so also need access for that. I likely need to prune more aggressively in the first place, but so far IÂfm not adequately decisive. I agree about how nice the clems would look with these roses, but it just seems to me they'd really cover them (& already were growing over a foot above Abe). There are about 9 hefty vine stems coming from each pot, with off-branching I think. One possibility for one of the blue clems is near a purple azalea - of course they wonÂft be in bloom at the same time. This azalea seems to be dying out on about half so the clematis could cover up the dead branches (& more)Âc though maybe not great if hope of it recovering significantly (sentimental value, coming from a family member). ThatÂfs a more shady area (north side of house). I haven't looked/done enough rose/clematis combos to make a fully informed assessment of ÂgoverwhelmingÂh the rose. The only other ones we have are: 'Nelly Moser' growing up from under 'Compassion' (not such a great color match to my eyes, but now difficult to get at Nelly) - and 'Jackmanii' providing a nice bridging color between 'Elina' and 'Pink Peace' roses... but going up a trellis so not really on the roses. Hmmm, now that I think about it, also have 'Comptesse de Bouchard' getting mixed in (but usually mostly trellised beside) with 'Sunsprite', and 'The President' sort of trellised, mostly beside but also through a bit of 'Mary' rose (love that combo). None of those are super vigorous (probably need feeding). Our biggest clematis is probably 'Allanah' (gorgeous deep red, not near a rose) - I can't picture her right on a rose unless many of the vines were teased out to grow trellised outside of the rose too. Also - back with the blue Integrifolias... there's another rose (label kaput so not sure what variety - it was so covered up that it hasn't seen much light of day lately), from large peat pot, that has rooted into the ground just adjacent to the clems, much closer than the other roses, such that if I dig the clems up, I'd probably need to extricate the roots from this rose (which ideally I'd move too).... too much, too close!! I'll have to look more for combo pics. Meanwhile, probably will wait to move/re-pot ÂeBlue BoyÂf and ÂeBlue BellÂf. Maybe will try an obelisk for now....See MorePotting Clematis
Comments (8)Yeah, I'm definitely a night owl, and leave me alone in the morning until I have at least two cups of coffee! :) I've been so busy, I meant to call you today but I was in the yard until dusk tending to my plants. I moved my Romantika clematis - I had it between two climbing roses and thought it would be too crowded and mildew prone. I got to thinking recently about my choice in planting these together....the Romantika with my Don Juan RED rose and my Sombreuil WHITE rose might look like a fourth of July celebration. Duh. I know Romantika isn't really blue, but the resemblance might be enough that I'll want to bust out with the sparklers everytime I glance over...the things you never think of... The stem got cracked when I moved it and I'm hoping I didn't kill it. This is the one I got at Menards, but it was growing nicely. Go figure...I cracked the clem because I was wedging myself between the fence and the tomato plant (and was trying not to disturb the tomato plant which I could care less about), so I decided the tomato plants had to go. I made a quick run to Steins to get a clay pot for the tomatoes. Someone on the tomato forum said I couldn't transplant tomatoes at this point, but roots weren't too bad. We'll see how they do... Marie Boisselot - the type 2 - she is being potted. I took your advice, why bother planting her in the ground next to my "temporary" lilac tree? I think the pot is too small for her though, so I'm considering planting her next to my arborvitae. I'm running out of space, and don't want to wedge her in with type 3's. I also had another Minuet that I purchased for the same reason, as an afterthought, thinking the type 3 would be better for the lilac in full sun, so now I have a type 2 and type 3 to figure out what to do with. Not to mention the Walenburg, Avant Garde, Carmencita and Negritianka! Mary Rose is going to YOUR YARD, BTW. Did I tell you I saw the picture of the clematis growing over the garage door? I'm hooked. I HAVE to do that. Too bad the Montana's don't grow well here, but the biggest clematis I could find is "Consort" - so I ordered it. I don't know if it will grow all the way up and over, but it's worth a try, and I'm thinking of moving my Etoile Violette to the opposite side. 21 and counting. Ville De Lyon is still on my "want" list! LOL...See MoreClematis in pots?
Comments (16)Just an FYI but the caution that clematis need their roots in the shade is misstated. They just need a consistently moist root run. If the root area is shaded, water evaporation from the soil is slowed or reduced so the moisture content tends to be more even. But those roots can also grow well in a very sunny location, provided adequate water is available. And that can be addressed with more frequent irrigation ( especially in containers), a good, thick, protective mulch or by planting a low growing and spreading companion plant at their base. It does not have to be a shaded location!...See Moredianela7analabama
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