Oh, for frittatas! That's different! I've never had a non-stick pan that I liked, so was just reading along for information. I've been on an omelette kick recently. It started as experiments with my DeBuyer carbon steel crepe pans. I didn't think I'd like them for eggs because I have a tendency to wiggle them around in the pan and have the best luck with enamel for that (i.e., there's residue, but the eggs still come out, by and large). People were talking in Appliances about using them for breakfasts, and I didn't think they'd be good for eggs in a fry-up. Sure enough, I tried it, and it could have been worse, but the Le Creuset is a lot better. On the other hand, in doing an experiment regarding my induction, when I was feeling horrid and was looking for a soothing greaseball to eat, I made a grilled egg sandwich using a crepe pan for grilling the sandwich and my blini pan for the egg. That is the best sunnyside up egg I've ever made! It was done in butter, but was totally slidy. Into the sandwich without utensil intervention just like the non-sticks do on TV, same for the sandwich itself, even with the contents running all over the pan. So for grins I tried the crepe pans for omelettes and they're great! Best omelettes I've ever made too. The folding has always been my downfall. The low sides and really really smooth surface make it really easy to get the spatula underneath and flip it over. Also, the sharp angle makes for perfectly round eggs, which looks really cool. :) The only downside is that they don't have lids, and the ones I've been using are only a so-so fit. Getting it done just right on the top is a challenge. Really beautiful omelettes, however. I haven't done it yet, but it occurred to me that it would be really easy to make a frittata by starting it in the one pan and heating the next size up one to flip it into. They make double sided frittata pans to do just that. I wouldn't put these in the dishwasher, but cleaning is just so easy! Right after plating, I run the pan under hot water with a drop of dish liquid, give it a swish with a plant fiber scrubbie if necessary, rinse, pat with towel and put back on the warm element to thoroughly dry. Sounds like a lot, but takes less than 15 seconds. If it looks like it needs it, I'll give it a quick spray of oil for the seasoning too. If it hadn't been for that discussion in Appliances, I'd still be using these mostly for socca, blintz pancakes and other crepeish things. Because they're so smooth--smoother even than enamel--I think they're great for anything one might do on a flattop, as long is it doesn't get scrambled or slosh out of the pan.

My GE Monogram induction cooktop now has a perfectly circular etched scratch on the front right burner. Until this weekend I had been using an induction compatible stainless $43 Tools of the Trade 10 piece set with clear glass lids and have had no problems. For the first time ever I used an old Le Creuset pot b/c I had guests and needed to cook a lot of pasta. The water boiled over when I lost track of it due to the power and speed of the induction and also b/c without a glass cooktop I had no visual cue to alert me. The bottom of this pot has what looks like a slightly rough cast iron circular bottom before the enamel starts on the curve where the sides of the pot begin. The pot is so heavy that I know I didn't move it around on the burner with all that water in it. All I can imagine that happened is that the water that boiled over caused the pot to hydroplane a bit and that it ground out the circular etch or scratch as it settled down again. I almost cried when I realized that I had done this but the silver lining is that I was the one to damage my beautiful induction baby so I wouldn't have hard feelings toward anyone else---sort of like getting that first scratch on a new car. Also, since it is a mirrored/reflective cooktop and the scratch is within the patterned section of the burner it is not as visible as it could have been. Bottom line for me is that I will be much more careful about water on the cooktop in the future.

H202, Jack lane and HU-369333305: I'm currently working on installing the Bosch 800 series 30" induction. While reading the install manual https://media3.bosch-home.com/Documents/9001410846_D.pdf (pg 6 to be exact) there are specific under cabinet ventilation slots required so the metal box housing the electromagnetic inductors can cool. These are 21" x 2" high slots on the back of the cabinet, and 2 sides if the cabinet is less than 29 1/2" interior width. A reviewer who had this model confirmed that Bosch would not honor the warranty as the retro-fit install did NOT put these vent slots into her cabinet and her unit constantly shuts down due to overheating. So I'm curious if your units were installed with any of these under counter vent slots? My island configuration would only allow a bottom kick plate and right sided vent under cabinet cutout. Hate to spend the 2K just to find that it would be insufficient ventilation. This is irregardless of OVER the cook top vent hood.

Any update on how the Miele internal downdraft works? I am interested in learning the best installation to reduce noise (below in crawl space I think), and how much the unit itself reduces the front-back depth of the cabinetry below. I am planning to have the Miele induction 30" paired with the 30" Miele downdraft. The downdraft can sit flush (within the same cutout as the induction), or it can sit behind with a gap of about 1.5 inches. While having the downdraft sit with the 1.5 inch gap may leave more room for the cabinetry depth below, it also reduces the counter area behind on the island for possible seating. I read a number of comments that the ideal island counter depth is 48-49 inches. Mine will be 42-45 inches, depending on the width of the space to the counter behind. That is currently set at 45 inches. It looks like the blower can sit below the cabinetry and that the duct can come off the downdraft from the front, back, under, left or right, so I'm choosing under, but I can't tell from the Miele install guide all the dimensions needed. I also considered the Best Cattera, given its low profile. But, it looks like this unit has the metal border. My Miele cooktop will sit proud, so all black and flush wiht the countertop. Thank you.