Hand pulling bermuda grass does little because they can regrow from roots which can go down several feet. Preen Garden Weed Preventer only stops seeds from starting and the grass is probably coming from roots so no surpise it didn't work. The fabric/plastic barriers are worst than worthless imo. What I do is use a knife to dig around the root down as far as I can and get as much root as I can. The more root removed the longer it takes to come back and the more energy the existing roots use up. When grass appears again weed again. The longer green is allowed to grow the more energy gets put back into the roots. If you keep the green removed the roots will eventually run out of energy and die. Most people would use a systemic herbicide. Roundup, Easy Gone, whatever. The only way this stuff works is by reading and following the directions to the letter. Most of my friends that use sprays and say they don't work never read the directions at all. Just a waste of time and money. Don't get the spray get on the plants you want to keep. Spray on a calm day and you can use a piece of cardboard as a sheild. Once you get the upper hand the more frequently you remove new weeds the easier it will be.

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I've had this exact same issue with these vines in Oklahoma, if you mow over them it's like they are releasing a toxin in the area that blinds and chokes you, I finally managed to get rid of it, use gloves and a machete or gardening sheers, it's a long process but doing it this way I was able to pull it all from the side of my house bag it up and get rid of it then finally managed to mow without any problem.

Hugs to all of you who are suffering. My knee that I broke is hurting because I am not walking like I used to because of the weather. I broke it slipping on ice and am not about to do that again just to get exercise. Going up and down the basement stairs to do laundry just about did me in because of the knee pain. I have swollen glands under my arms right now too that are a litte painful. Lydia, I know about that ovary pain and I am 51! I guess I will take it because all my friends are going through Menopause and are suffering more than I am. LOL Carol, let me tell you a little story about what happens when you swallow those raisins whole. LOLOL When my little niece Jennifer (now 34) was a toddler she ate some raisins. I had her on the change table the next day changing her diaper and she passed a little gas and out came a really plump looking golden grape. I was kind of shocked because she hadn't eaten any grapes then I remembered the bowl or raisins. LOL That little tiny raisin rehydrated itelf and came out as a grape. LOL I make sure I alway chew my raisins now. Poor Jenny will never live that story down. Anne