Turkey shortage
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Comments (3)My parents live in the southeastern part of florida. They said they were supposedly in a drought but it rained practically every day this past summer when we didn't get squat. They would joke at how they would come to visit and the rain would follow them! Of course they visited on my birtday late oct, then on turkey day late nov, and late dec on christmas... each time they came it rained because it was our regular monthly rain that always came at the end of the month. But they swore it was because they brought the rain with them. Anyway that is a much different climate down there. They will have their dry spell in what we up here call "the spring" and they will get all the brushfires and complain about the bad drought they are in. And then the monsoon season will come during summer with daily t-storms. That is just how it is. If everything seems more alive down there it's because just 2 days ago it was in the 80's. The people that use a lot of water are on wells which are fairly common down there since the water table is high. The people that don't use a lot of water use city water, most municipal sources there charge for sewage based on metered water consumption so the bills can be very very high. The water bills would be about twice what they are here or possibly even more....See MoreProjected sugar shortage news
Comments (16)Ah, I've never heard of krauting the whole cabbage. My Polish grandmother just used to use boiled cabbage (and tomato soup, which I'm sure she didn't learn from her mother!) to make her golumbki (sp?). As with all of her *own* recipes, she never wrote it down (though she had envelopes full of clippings, and recipe cards from friends) so I'm trying to recreate it, but I use tomato sauce. I was lucky enough to write down how she made (incl. rough measurements) blueberry buckle when I was a teenager, and found a couple of partial recipes for her Xmas stollen that I used as guides, reconstructed (they called for slightly different proportions of flour and liquid, one for cream, one for milk) so I make those each year. Turkey wars are starting - now Stop and Shop has turkey (limit 1) for 99 cents/lb, or 47 cents with $25 of other groceries. Canned cranberry sauce is under a dollar, but fresh cranberries vary from 2 for $3 (yeah! at Big Y this week) to 2 for $5 (S&S)....See MoreHow Much Are Turkeys?
Comments (27)plllog, I misspoke, I raised Black/Gray Slate turkeys, not Black Spanish. That said, the poults still cost me $10.25 each for day old birds. I can't really count food, as 5 of them died within the first three days, so I didn't feed them much. Two more died the next week, and one died after about a month. I did factor the mortality cost into the cost of the final bird. When dressed, the turkeys weighed between 11 and 18 pounds and cost $45 to raise. 15 pounds was the "average" that we reached between one small turkey/one big turkey and all others were in the middle as to weight. So, that's $3.00 a pound just to get the poults and feed them. They require a longer growing period and they are fussy, needing light and heat, watching them so they don't forget to eat and starve to death, or drown by falling asleep next to the water dish. Mine got infectious sinusitis and required antibiotics, so much for organic birds. Even after they are big, you have to watch them. One was so dumb that he stuck his head through the fence and didn't realize how to take one step back and take his head out. He just stood there and screamed until I walked over, pulled him a few inches backward and he realized he was no longer "stuck", not that he ever was. They are, without exception, the dumbest thing I've ever encountered, although they were friendly. So, truthfully, I'd say $10 a pound is a bit of a stretch, even for something as labor intensive as those bird brains were, but I'd have to charge someone $7 a pound, at least, to compensate for the time of plucking and cleaning as well as feeding, cleaning pens, rescuing them from the fence, etc. And, of course, I don't have to make a living. I probably spent at least 6 or 7 hours on each bird, so there's approximately 48 hours of work. At minimum wage that's $8.15 per hour, or $391 in labor. Divide that by the 7 birds and there's $55 a bird, plus the $45 to feed it and buy it in the first place. So, $95 if I'm only making minimum wage, divide that by 15 pounds and you get $6.33 per pound just to raise the things and that is if I'm making $8 an hour! More birds, of course, translates into less cost for feed/etc., so someone who raises more than a dozen could probably do it more cheaply and spend about the same amount of time I did raising my 7. And, of course, you're helping to ensure biological diversity, something that I can't put a price on, plus you are hopefully getting a bird that's been humanely and sustainably raised. As they say, "Eat them to save them", otherwise they become extinct. Annie...See MoreMore shortages
Comments (43)Hi Raven. I haven't had trouble finding my mothers creamer, but did have trouble finding it in the version with calories. I don't buy her anything reduced fat or sugar, she needs the calories. Fred Meyer had some (refrigerated) with an extended use by date of Dec 29th so I can not worry about that for a couple of months. DH keeps real half and half for his coffee so I don't buy it for here. HU-629454853....Not Nabisco vanilla wafers, but DH just went to Safeway for a Mom approved toddler Halloween treat and came home with 'O' Organics vanilla animal crackers. He said they had the wafers too, but he bought the little treat bags not only for the baby/nephew, but the grandchildren of a friend too - knew they would be in town visiting this weekend. Costco two days ago on Thursday and I found paper towels in stock. Our previous three stops there in the last 5-6 weeks....none at all. The grocery stores have had them, but I'm a creature of habit and haven't purchased toilet paper or paper towels any place other than Costco in many years ;0)...See More- 4 years ago
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