Would you put smart (nest) smoke / co2 detectors in your new home?
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Comments (13)Thanks for posting that section, Fred! I've been having trouble finding the right section in the codes, most of the things I've come across have been from secondary sources writing about the codes. Always loses some detail in the translation. I think exception 3 should apply to my situation, but with a twist (there's always a twist). I looked through the permit documents the city has available online, and it looks like there were two separate permits for downstairs work. The first permit related to the portion of the downstairs where the alarms are actually located, and was described as "Remodel existing space behind garage, no enlarge of existing habitable space." I'm assuming if walls had been removed, that would have been indicated in the description (no idea if that's a safe assumption or not). The second permit was a issued a year later, and relates to the other end of the downstairs area, i.e., away from the alarms. That permit was described as "Remove bearing wall next to stair on ground floor." So there was a wall taken out downstairs at some point. Did removing that wall negate the code exception for the entire downstairs, such that removal triggered the need to install wired alarms throughout the downstairs area? Such an outcome would seem pretty draconian, since it would require a significant tear down of areas that are nowhere near the permitted work area. I'm really impressed by the responses on here as a whole. My wife and I had used Houzz in the past primarily to get ideas for decorating/remodeling, had no idea there was such a great user community....See MoreHow far would you go with your SMART Kitchen?
Comments (28)Gradually, all devices are switching to USB-C with PD (power-delivery). Most modern cell phones already do this. Apple announced that they'll switch away from their proprietary connectors. And laptop manufactures have also joined this trend. This is great -- except it means that all those USB wall outlets are obsolete. Yes, you can buy USB-A to USB-C adapter cables. But they'll just end up charging devices in trickle mode, if even that. I might reconsider if I could find a proper USB-C/PD capable wall outlet. But for now, I feel that USB wall outlets are already obsolete when doing a remodel....See More"smart" smoke detectors
Comments (10)I don't care what Google says about the Nest microphones. There's no stinking reason a thermostat needs a mic, for Pete's sake! "Never intended to be a secret." Yeah, right. They just forgot to mention it. Oops! And the fact that I had my hand in the cookie jar doesn't mean I intended to take one. Google makes excuses for what they do. Every company does. That I get. What I don't get is why so many of Google's users make excuses for them. Well, whatever. Google's business model is raking in and selling as much information about their users as possible, full stop. You know, that, right? You don't think they're making these "free" services available just because they're nice people, do you? Don't get me wrong here, I won't say I never use Google's services. I don't use their search, but I do use their translator and maps. I'm not logged into Google when I do, but I know full well that they can identify me in other ways. It makes me a little sick to my stomach when I realize that they're building up a file of my translation and location requests. Their algorithms are digesting my queries. They know where I'm traveling in the near future, and what I'm going to do there, even though they no doubt also know that I use an ad blocker. :-) For the moment, I use translator and maps anyway. That's called informed (if reluctant) choice. So if you also know what Google is taking from you in exchange for their services, I don't see a problem. What I object to is that many people don't, because they (Google) don't post the actual privacy costs of their services in plain sight. You have to dig through the terms of service. Who does that? And by the way, though I'm singling Google out here, they're far from the only company doing this. It's happening with all smart devices, including and especially smart television sets.. Also, when they do give you software settings to reduce your "sharing," they usually make those settings hard to find and confusing to use. They sure don't advertise them. How is that right? To get back on topic with Nest stuff, as long as you realize that those gadgets sell information that can (for example) potentially tell who-knows-whom when you're away from home, using them anyway is on you. My question to you is, how often do you really think about that? As for the Nest microphones whose data "never goes to Google's servers," according to Kudzu's link -- well, that may or may not be true now. Google's record on such matters is kind of mixed. Will it still be true next year? They're not saying. But if they can think of a way to make money with those microphones, assume that they will. When they do start snarfing up the data from those mics, will they disclose what they're doing and why? You bet! It'll be right there in the terms of service you didn't read, posted in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”...See MoreCheck your smoke detectors!
Comments (11)Not smoke detector related, but I remember when my parents got those carbon monoxide detectors put in the house. They were so proud of themselves taking the extra steps for the safety of their children. I also remember every time they went off, especially in the middle of the night, we were barked at to get back in bed while they ripped the batteries out in annoyance. Shouldn't we have been out in the yard whilst the proper authorities were called? Nope. Back in bed.. In the morning,they would replace them. So why get them? Never got a straight answer for that one. Luckily, my mother set the smoke detectors off frequently,so when she cooked a whole week without setting them off, it was almost always an indicator that they needed new batteries. When we moved into our current house we discovered that the smoke detectors would only work if we activated whatever security contract the previous owners had. Like, even though they had batteries, they actually would not work unless we activated that contract. Easy fix though. We just went out and bought some. I wonder who was dumb enough to sign up for that?...See Morekculbers
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