I broke out laughing at what WinterCat stated: " I didn't even spray Golden Cel. because I didn't want to waste expensive poison on a doomed rose..." That's funny! I don't spray in my Chicagoland garden. Golden Celebration is clean in my PARTICULAR alkaline clay and limy well water. It's a HUGE water-hog, but I keep it since it's healthy and smells good. Same reason with Radio Times, I would have to move this to the front: out of sight, and let Mother Nature waters it. If it dies, I don't care, the risk of being poked far outweighs its sweet Damask scent, health, and the stunning blooms. I love Suzy's (Camp's) honesty and enjoy reading her witty comments. Regarding what Suzy wrote: "Summer Song - what a waste of space - you can all be grateful it is largely unavailable in the US. 3 blooms on a straggly BS ridden plant - seriously not good enough." Niels in Denmark, zone 5b, reported that it's not hardy for him. Another person in zone 6 reported it dying to the crown in the winter. Others report that it's a weak plant and a stingy bloomer. Robert Neil Rippetoe bred Abraham Darby with a yellow Poulsen to produce a deep orange rose, intense fruity scent, similar to Summer Song, but with vigor for cold zone. I already asked him for seeds to test in my zone 5a. When I was searching for a better orange than Pat Austin, Kim Rupert recommended a floribunda bred by Fryer, "Casanova" - tons of blooms, great scent, lots of praises for that one. Check out the link below for 2000 stunning ruffled orange floribunda "Casanova" sold at Pickering and overseas. Here is a link that might be useful: Casanova rose - Fryer floribunda from England

Friends! Finishing the year 2011 in the documentation activity, I must see, that the Breeders Fame Hall of conifering is increased up to a 283 persons "parliament", thanks to 230 new czech breeders. As you probably know, I need every breeders, even discovered 1 new cultivar in his life. Lets go to introduce the most famous czech breeders! Lada Valenta of Belecko introduced me into Cesko last year, and thanks to him the Conifer Treasury of Cesko 2.0 is born with an unexpected 5030 cultivars. An incredible discovery of a land of brooms. Lada & his son, Hansi are quite perfect discoverers even at San Sebastian or in the Russian Far-East Sichote Alin. Enjoy the Valenta finds! He reminds me the rangers, who were seekeing the Northwestern shipway in Canada many years before. Zsolt conifertreasury.org Here is a link that might be useful: Breeder's Hall - 53 - Valenta Ladislav & Hansi

Zsolt, thanks for sharing these nice selections. I like the form on the Picea orientalis Nutans. Amazing that it was selected over a century ago!

ARS 2010 Award of Excellence Winners: 'Be My Baby' Min, dp, Christian Bernard 'Mary Pickersgill' MinFl,yb, Michel Williams 'BENomen' Min, pb Frank Benardella ARS 2010 Hall of Fame Winners: 'Chelsea Belle' Min, mr Pete Taylor 'Grace Seward' Min,w, Dee Bennett 'Fancy Pants' Min,rb, Gene King