Experiences of those who purchased a Bertazzoni within last 3 years?
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Comments (35)Interesting Post! I've been an advocate of own-root roses for several years, but I have to admit grafted (if healthy) almost always seem to grow bigger (or at least as big). A main reason I like own-roots is they seem particularly well-suited to life in a pot, so Ceterum's question about growing them first in a pot might actually be a key factor to success. I know from experience that roses on Fortuniana (down here in the South, at least) will grow the biggest of all. That's precisely why I avoid it. Dr. Huey I don't like simply because the root structure is one of long central tap-roots that always find their way quickly out the bottom of the pot and aren't happy confined. But small doesn't always mean weak or unhappy. I heard a rule of thumb years ago that seems to be mostly true; that varieties which tend toward bushiness/many branches will tend also to develop good roots. I've had many own-root roses, about half of them minis but the rest mostly hybrid teas, and the HTs vary a lot. Many old and newer do great own-root; some don't. I've lost count of the roses I've given to neighbors and friends because they had gotten too big to be happy in pots. Once in the ground they quickly get even bigger. But back to Ceterum's question about letting the young roses mature some first in pots: Maybe that's the key. The one's I've given away after 2-4 years tend to do terrific in the ground; they've had lots of time to build up a good root system in friable potting soil and without competition from neighboring plants and trees. Incidentally, some of the hybrid teas I've grown own-root that did very well include: Paradise, Gold Medal, the old HT Mrs. Herbert Stevens (really more of a tea), Lady Luck, Fragrant Plum, Tiffany, Helmut Schmidt, Touch of Class, Artistry, Timeless, and Olympiad. Radiance is OK own-root, but I wonder if it would do better grafted. Some new ones for me that look promising are Deep Secret(kind of slow its first year but now looking bushy and vigorous, though still short, its 2nd spring), Dame de Coeur, Lagerfeld (still kind of gangly but growing big--I only got it last fall), all 3 I just got from Roses Unlimited, including Jardins de Bagatelle, Chrysler Imperial, and Papa Meilland (Ceterum had cautioned that PM may take 3-4 years to come into its own, but already it had 3 flower buds and it just came in mid-March. JdB has already produced 4 gorgeous blooms and seems to want to repeat rapidly, even continously! CI looks great too. Alec's Red is 1 year old and small but healthy and blooming well. A few HTs I thought were happier grafted include: Fragrant Cloud, Mr. Lincoln, Valencia, Just Joey, Double Delight, and Honor. The others I'm excited about are all mini floras or minis, so I guess they don't count for this discussion, since they're always own-root. But Man! Leading Lady and Whirlaway might as well be small hybrid teas, the blooms are so big and perfectly formed!...See MoreBertazzoni Thread #3
Comments (152)ash2011 : thanks for the tip. Will reducing the pressure with that brass screw also change the pressure on the top burners ? I am reluctant to take out the bottom of the oven as I'm one of those people that seems to make easy tasks turn out difficult !! If I can adjust it using the top burners that would be my preference. Running the oven on high last night the flame was coming out of the hole/slot on the left side of the oven floor. The top burners are a nice blue color but they all make a strong 'roaring' noise on high, especially the dual burner with both large & small burners turned on. Does this seem normal ? How do I know when the gas pressure / flame strength is as it should be ? Thanks again.......See Morehas anyone purchased a Bertazonni range in the last year?
Comments (8)I had a 30" Berta for two years -- until 2011. I posted about it in several threads which may/may not be linked above. I'll make a few generalizations. A Berta a-g is not Wolf a-g. Berta is, relatively speaking a budget range. The styling and finish are excellent. It offers an excellent attractive value. The gas top has a continuous grate and I found it had plenty of power. The front left burner has a double stack and boils a huge pot of water for pasta very quickly. The simmer burners are good. It was lovely to cook on and I would buy a Berta gas cooktop again. Again, it's not a Wolf, not a Culinarian, not a Blue Star. Not the same price either. Cooktop drawback is the electric ignition. You need to get accustomed to this. It can be quirky and is tricky at first. Once you get the hang of it, it's ok. But it clicks. Rap on the oven is size. The oven is smaller than some other ranges because there is a hatch below it and legs. However, I cooked a 16 pound turkey in there and catered a party for 40. It's a gas oven and needs initial adjustment at the time of installation so the heat can be evened out. It exhausts from the top and the fan goes on when the oven is going. If you're standing at the stove while the oven is on, this may be an issue. If this is going in a home/apartment without central air, consider how often you would use this gas oven -- or any gas oven -- during the summer. Additionally, the oven only goes down to something like 275F. The temperature control knob is "approximate" and, I agree, this is annoying. It absolutely requires an oven thermometer. For an avid baker it might not be the right oven. All that said, those of us who have had Bertas and cooked on them usually like them. I did a huge amount of research and contacted longtime users before I bought. Everyone was quite candid about the pros and cons, but positive. I did find the hatch below the oven handy for flat equipment storage. I liked that it was on legs and I could clean underneath. I didn't care that the oven was slightly smaller than, say a Wolf, because I hate those big huge gas ovens -- so hot -- and they are so low they are almost on the floor. But that's me. Others may not agree. Again, for the price it offers a high end look and quality and good performance. At the time of my purchase I compared it to other ranges in that price range and it was a no brainer. So the question for anyone considering a Berta is: what else can you get for the same price point and how does that compare? Don't look at Wolf. It's not comparable. Don't look at Blue Star, Thermador or Culinarion. Those aren't comparable. It's not a high performance pro range. It's a home cooking European style range....See MoreBought upholstered furniture in the last 2-4 years and happy with it?
Comments (28)Somewhat disappointed with my Hickory Chair sofa. The fabric has held up beautifully. The back pillows are feather and down and need constant plumping. I guess that is to be expected. The seat cushions have gotten hard. I'm not sure what they are stuffed with, definitely not down. Also the springs have sagged. I almost wish the fabric would give out so I could rationalize replacing the sofa....See More- 2 years ago
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