Would two 18in pendants be big enough over a 9ft 4in by 4ft 4in island
My husband and I are in the process of building our first house and we are wondering if the pendants we chose to hang over our island will be the right size. The pendants are 18 in and our plan currently has us hanging two of them over our 9'4" by 4'4" island. They will be hanging from an 11ft tray ceiling that will be framing the island. Do you think these will be big enough? Should we maybe hang a third? Below is a photo of the pendant we are considering. Unfortunately I can't share a picture of the kitchen/island because it hasn't been built yet. Thanks!
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2 years ago@RL Relocation LLC the pendants will be hung from an 11ft tray ceiling which will be surrounding the island. The ceiling height around the tray ceiling and covering the rest of the kitchen will be 10ft. I do not have an elevation drawing of the room but I can show you the floor plan which might help with envisioning it. I'm really wanting the focus to be on the windows surrounding the kitchen and the view of the rolling hills that they provide which is why I was going for pendants that are less bulky. However, if that throws off the balance in the kitchen then we might go with bulkier pendants but maybe with a clear shade? Also, in order to pull together the black and brass finishes that we will be using in our kitchen, I think we are leaning more towards the pendants below. They are 20.5in wide so I'm thinking maybe we could get by with just two of those? Would love to know your thoughts!
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this is two and it looks a little sparse if you see what I mean, so if you go this way 3 would be better
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2 years agoMy island is 8’ long and 5 1/2’ wide. I used 3 lights but because of the ceiling they are all on one connection.
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years ago@lucky998877 I'd love to see a picture of that if you have one!
I spoke with my builder and it looks like we are locked in with the two pendants since we have already finalized things with our architect. With that, and in order to fill the air above our island a bit better, we are leaning toward the pendant in the picture below. It has all three finishes of the metals we will use in our kitchen and is a bit bulkier than our previous selections at 12in wide and 10in tall. Hopefully it turns out okay!
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2 years agoYay, thank you @RL Relocation LLC! Our windows are going to act as the backsplash because we have so many of them. Our countertop will raise up to the bottom of the windows, though (about 4-6in or so). The countertop that will be along the walls of the kitchen will be a leathered steel gray granite. The countertop over the island will be a white marble looking quartz. The cabinets along the border of the kitchen will be white and the island will be white oak. Below is the overall look we are trying to achieve...
This is the leathered steel gray granite:
This is the accent countertop over the island:
This is a kitchen that has the textures/colors/finishes that we are going for:
We will have four of these sconces, one each hanging over the two windows that frame the cooktop (the will be facing down, no up):
And here's the pendant that we are leaning towards:
We are still having a tough time not going with the pendant below, though. Our lighting guy said that the 3 edison bulbs will let off the same amount of light as a 60 watt bulb so, idk! Never thought I've have such a hard time making this decision!
jandsmom
2 years agoMy island is 10.5x5.5 and I only have 2 pendents. I also have 3 bulbs in each. There's plenty of light even when I don't have the recessed lights on. Here are 2 pictures. The first with just the island lights on and the second with all the lights on. Oh...and my ceiling height is 10'7"
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2 years ago@RL Relocation LLC Okay, those are all really valid points. And, in the inspo pics you shared with the leathered gray countertops, I am loving how the brass pops against the black on the top left photo! So, I've picked two new pendant options that include both glass and brass and would love some input!
This one is a 13in wide, 18.5in high, seedy glass Hinkley pendant with brass hardware. I think it's shape might play well with the sconces over the windows and the height might work well with the 11ft tray ceiling. My only concern is that it requires an edison bulb (100 watt):
This next one is a 12in wide, 13in high Bellvue Della pendant with brass hardware. It's a textured glass, though I'm not sure what that texture is called. I like it's shape and I like that it doesn't require an edison bulb. I only wonder if it will be large enough. The second photo shows the texture better:
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2 years agoOh and here’s a photo of the other fixtures we’ve chosen for the rest of the main areas in our mostly open concept house. I think they all will play nicely together and bring in a good mixture of metals and textures. Yay!
Top left: Island pendants
Top right: scones over the windows in kitchen and over shelving in great room.
Middle left: foyer
Middle right: dining room
Bottom left: utility room
Bottom right: great room
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