I loved the looks of the Thermador Pro, but the price tag with their repair reputation scared me away. (Actually, the price was enough) I also like knobs. I've had previous aggravations with touch panels, and also don't like the fingerprint aspect. --I'm obviously not keeping up with the Johnsons! LOL :-) I was surprised at the comment about the slide out racks not adjusting in the Electrolux, because I'm pretty sure they can... Regular Electrolux or ICON? One thing that steered me away from the Electrolux ovens was the interior depth...Less than Monogram and others I was considering. It depends on how much you put in the oven and what size pans you use if this is an issue that could influence your decision. All that said, I have the Monogram ZET2PMSS. The racks are wonderful EXCEPT that they take up so much room, there are fewer rack positions than with other ovens. I don't like to use the bottom position, as things tend to get too brown for my taste when there, so if you want to use 2 racks at a time, then the top one gets so high that there can be overbrowning on the top of that rack's contents. The other thing you should know about the Monograms: They use the fan to regulate temp, so when on any of the convection modes, the fan occasionally turns off, instead of being on all the time, and when on Bake, when you don't expect any forced air movement, they might come on to help bring the temp back up. This was a surprise to me, and not always the best for whatever I'm baking. Also, I'm not sure about the Thermador or Electrolux, but the Monogram only adjusts in 25 degree increments. That wouldn't bother a lot of people, but I like the ability to fine tune things a bit more to suit how things are cooking. --We bake ALL the time in our house (a couple times a day is normal), and I because of previous experience with a wonderfully-performing oven, am oven-picky. The things that bother me may not bother you. Electrolux manual (page 9) shows how to move oven racks: http://www.electroluxappliances.com/Files/Documents/Use%20and%20Care/EW30EW65G_uc_EN.pdf Electrolux ICON manual (also page 9) talks about the different rack positions: http://electroluxicon.com/Files/International_English/0-999/documents/E30EW75GPS_om_EN.pdf

I really want a range with a good grill and seems to keep coming back to these two. What does anyone think? Am I overlooking something? I also considered going less expensive with the GE Cafe but don't think the griddle will work as a grill and was a bit leary of the pink -ish look to the stainless. Also, what hood would you recommend on the 36" models? this appliance thing is mind boggling. I am dreaming appliances!

I did a lot of analysis and these two were on my list. I ended up going with the monogram. I dont have it yet. But there were very few complaints on the monogram, thermador had some mixed reviews and with the hood rebate through september, the monogram will end up costing me about 5K vs. thermador over 7K. The racks also dont have to be removed for cleaning on monogram.

Well, as is usually the case, the rest of the house renovation went over budget. So we kept our Thermador for now. I absolutely LOVE the cooktop. And the oven cooks very evenly but the fan is just so loud. It is super frustrating. However, we visited a high-end appliance showroom and looked at the newer 36" Thermador. It didn't seem near as loud, so I wonder if the Thermador engineers figured out a different fan mechanism. If you decide on the Monogram, I'd love to know what you think!