Would like help with kitchen/dining layout
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Comments (4)Without a water source on that island, it'll never really get used for prep. You'll be standing facing the back wall for about 90% of the time you are in the kitchen. So, to make that work well, you need to maximize the distance between the sink and the cooktop, with the DW out of that zone. Keep the wall oven off of the back wall and look at doing a window or passthrough over the sink. So, 15' - 36" doorway & 3" wall reveal leaves 141". -15" drawer base -36" cooktop = 90" Starting from the other end, -24" DW and -30" sink and that leaves a 36" prep spot between the sink and cooktop. (You'll need at least a 3/4" panel against the wall to support the counter on the wall side of the DW) That's less than the ideal 48" between the sink and cooktop, but unless you are willing to put a prep sink on the island, it's what you'll have to deal with. The space would work much better if you could move the cooktop to the run where you have the fridge and add a prep sink to the island. Even if you are on a slab, that's not that difficult to do as the main sink isn't that far from the island. And it would bring so much to your layout to be able to face outwards rather than the back wall! You could reduce the cost of adding the window over the sink if you added the prep sink to the island. But if you don't add the prep sink to the island, you definitely want something to stare at other than a wall of cabinets!...See MoreNew build - would like any ideas on Kitchen layout
Comments (59)celtic - below are pictures of fridge placements that helped me try to figure out what different ones would look like. I have to say I do not like that fridge B and C stick out as far as they do. Fridge D gives me an idea from a side view at how far it could stick out (just the doors). I like the design of A. Is that the style you are referring to that is $$$. Seems most fridges are enclosed by cabinetry. Probably standard. Layout D was the layout that kind of inspired my kitchen somewhat. They have the fridge and oven side by side and when seen together it actually looks nice. Another option if there is space is just to move the oven down some so that there is usable counter space in between the two. I like all of the new layouts. Each one as youve said has something that you might dislike about it. #3 probably is the best one because of the sight lines, however, I have to agree with Lisa_a in that I like the #3 because of the sight lines, but like the separation of the oven and fridge in 2. I have to admit too that I agree with rhome and that is I liked the pantry location better in the first one because Id like to use that other space as a message center, however, it looks like I gain a lot more cabinet space back in the kitchen when putting the pantry by the sink. These now are just compromises Ill have to make. One of the OP said that having the fridge near the pantry will make it easier to put groceries away, plus where the fridge is at now (new plans) is directly down the hall from the two bedrooms if kids were playing in there. DH is home now so hopefully tomorrow morning we can digest all of this and come to a decision. I guess bottom line is that leaving our kitchen as is on our current plan will create no problems getting around the island because I have lots of space, correct? However, the functionality of the layout isnt ideal (pantry outside of kitchen, no real place for guest to sit on the outside perimeter of the kitchen or is there?). I think the pantry was the only real eyesore there, correct? I watched something on HGTV tonight and the couple wanted to find a home without an island in the kitchen because in her previous house it just got in her familys way. All this talk about islands whats everyone elses view? Love it or hate it? I find that without it I may have too much extra wasted space in the middle. Couple of things I want to make sure I address looks like youre adding a slight wall in the dining room area. Is that just preference because it will look better, or what is the reason for that? I do like that by changing the kitchen I get a private MB entrance and a new shallow storage area. Not sure what Ill use that for yet, but you can never have enough storage space. Would have been the perfect size for a message center, just wrong location. The new MB entrance is that going into old hallway space with closet straight ahead? Can that MB closet be extended and hallway reduced? Vanity storage by MB sink should be a problem. That space should open up and be usable once I reduce down the shower size. Now can you recommend someone who can redraw this out on my plan with dimensions? Thanks to all as always for all your help. Ill give you an update after I talk to DH. Fridge A Fridge B Fridge C Fridge D Kitchen layout...See MoreKitchen Layout Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated!
Comments (22)LWO's layout is better on all counts. The zones are more separated and none have crossing path conflicts. Yours all do. And a corner sink you're suggesting is a huge pain. It's the choice of last resort for a tiny kitchen. Yours is anything but that. Why do you "need" uppers on either side of the range hood? Your inspiration pic doesn't have them and it looks fine. You can fit everything you need for spices etc. into lower cabinets. Especially with that continent in the middle of the space. The island is too large proportionately to the rest of the kitchen and it dwarfs even the 48" range. It needs to become shorter, but especially, shallower. You'll never be able to clean the middle of it unless you use a sponge mop otherwise. If a drive towards that functionality killer "symmetry" is driving these non functional layouts, then you need to drop back and actually analyze the two window layout. It will be very easy to make the range the symmetrical focal point between two windows, even if it's not perfectly centered on that back wall. Add in a built in MW cabinet to the counter next to the fridge. Then the range will be perfectly centered between the remaining space between the tall objects and the wall to the right. I'd also suggest centering the cleanup sink on the wall to the left since that appears to be important visually to you. It's not clear as to whether or not the wall to the right is a solid wall or merely a construction line. If a construction line, it could add some interest to create the arched opening that is in the pic with the range on the exterior wall. That adds in some visual separation that will help to define the space, yet allow it to remain physically open. Remember, "centering" isn't the same thing as symmetry. Balance, proportion, positive space and negative space, also factor into the equation as well. You're getting hung up on "matchy matchy" centering, and that's detracting from the functionality, and also the true balance of the elements in the space. Or maybe jettison this home plan entirely in favor of something that has more overall style emphasis on equilateral symmetry such as a center hall Colonial or Foursquare....See MoreNeed layout help for a non-L shaped kitchen/dining room combo
Comments (23)I know you said you did not want to switch rooms; but since you like the look of the sink in the bay (the outside views are awesome), it may be worth exploring. If your DH is like mine, change is hard, but he comes around eventually. Perhaps posting another thread that asks people to weigh in on the two kitchen locations with a mock layout for each might get DH to consider the possibility if he can read what others have to say concerning the positives and negatives of each kitchen location. Many people are remodeling to get a larger kitchen space by eliminating two sit-down eating spaces in their homes. Thus, If you switch the rooms, I do not think you would have to “stage” a formal dining room if the time comes to sell. The larger, well designed kitchen would be a major selling point. Keeping the kitchen in its current location does not gain you a whole lot more space for the kitchen because of the traffic patterns; moving the kitchen to the dining area gains you much more kitchen space. You gain the space for family friendly island seating, and the kitchen does not have to be in a location that “fights” with the traffic patterns of your home. The generous dining space combined with the larger kitchen space would be awesome to entertain in. One negative would be carrying groceries a tad farther but not a whole lot more. ;...See Morethinkdesignlive
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