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Need Advice On Paint and Furniture for 100 Year Old Home

Jason Von
3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hey all! Just bought this house. I love bold color and funky/artsy aesthetic, but am second-guessing some of my ideas. I'm going to pull up the carpet to reveal the hardwood floor, and would like to do the walls of the living and dining rooms in deep blue, paint the fireplace white, and put up white crown molding in both rooms, but have seen people saying to never paint a fireplace, and have no idea what sort of crown molding to apply. I'm also completely lost on the type of furniture to get (current furniture is from previous owner) and blinds/curtains to put up. I'm thinking what I'd like is a mix between Art Deco (to match the dining room's original chandelier) and Pop or Expressionist Art to make everything colorful and playful. Attached are some pictures of the house:

























And here are some ideas of interior design that I'm sort've taking inspiration from. I guess ultimately what I'm looking for is the line between classic and masculine, and fun and non-stuffy:


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Comments (37)

  • apple_pie_order
    3 years ago

    You have a good idea what you want the house to be. Do you have a question?

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Hi there! Yes, I have a few questions.


    So is it actually inadvisable to paint the fireplace white? I really like the look of white fireplaces, but I'm uncertain if the style of fireplace I have would look good painted white. Also, the brick in that fireplace is very porous, which seems different than other brick in fireplaces that I've seen painted.


    I'm also looking for advice/recommendations on the coffee table, entertainment stand, curtains/blinds, and other chairs in the living room. As well as a chandelier to replace the fan that will match the style of the one in the dining room.


    Finally, I don't know much about crown moulding, and was curious if there was advice on a style that would look good for the place, or if I should even bother with crown moulding.


    Looking at coffee tables, I found this beat up antique Art Deco piece on ebay for a decent price:


    But for something completely modern, I found this on Wayfair that I kind of like:

    I have no idea if either of them match the tone of the room I'm going for though.


    Should I buy curtains or just blinds, or both? What color curtains would work for the theme I'm going for? I looked at bamboo Roman blinds, and thought that might work with my color scheme, but I'm not certain.


    So, as you can see, I'm sort of all over the place. I sort of know the overall theme, but I can't seem to nail down particulars.


    Thanks!

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  • cawaps
    3 years ago

    So exciting! And I love your inspiration pics.

    It looks like a couple of your rooms have picture rail molding applied very close to the ceiling (and it looks like the previous owners actually used it for its original purpose, since I see picture rail hooks). I'm a big fan of picture rails in older home, since they avoid putting holes in your walls and make it really easy to rearrange art (which features prominently in your inspo pics). So think about that before you take it off and replace it with crown. Crown AND picture rail is an option.

    Your door casings look to be very simple, so I would choose a relatively simple crown profile to go with it. Maybe something leaning Craftsman.

    I'm usually opposed to painting fireplaces, mostly because it's so hard to undo if you (or a future owner) wants to restore the original. But the the brick used doesn't seem to be anything special, and/or the lighting in the room doesn't show it off to good effect. I suspect it was considered pretty utilitarian when the house was new. So if you need someone's blessing to change it, you have mine. You could paint, you could do a German schmear, or you could even tile over it. I think you could make it something pretty special with tile.

    The Ebay coffee table would be very cool. I don't think industrial-ish Wayfair table really fits the aesthetic of your inspiration photos. You could do well sourcing things from Ebay, Craigslist, and second-hand for a collected look, mixing stuff from different eras.

    If the artwork in the inspiration photos is part of the appeal (and you don't have a current collection or the wealth to just go out an buy anything you want), start keeping an eye out for things you like. Mass market art usually looks like mass market art. You can find affordable pieces at student shows, craft fairs, Etsy, and many online galleries. For example, I have many pieces from a local studio that serves disabled adults and has a big sale every December (with lots of 5, 10, and 20 dollar items).


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    JudyG Designs
    3 years ago

    Have you identified the style of your house. Thinking it maybe an American Foursquare, side entrance. Love to know what you have for provenance.


    The dining room light looks Art Deco.



  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Excellent! Exactly the kind of feedback I've been looking for.


    The previous owner, a local professor, and artist did in fact use the picture rails, and I've been a bit torn about taking them down and adding crown moulding, but thought that white moulding would flesh things out a bit after adding such a deep color to the walls. I suppose I thought the rail would look anemic if I painted it white, and needed something a bit heavier up there. But getting a second opinion on that would be helpful. I had also considered lowering the rail below the moulding...


    Thanks for the blessing on the fireplace. LOL. It's actually one of three in the house, one in the basement, and the other in the master bedroom. I hadn't considered tile. I think I'll look into that before committing to paint.


    As far as artwork, my father is also a local artist (and I can draw a bit), so I'm sure I'll have some of that up there, but thanks for the advice. I definitely want to get an eclectic mix on the wall.


    I'm not a fan of the sconces that are currently above the fireplace, and was thinking of some art deco-y pieces for that.


    I'm still drawing blanks on curtains/blinds for my color scheme/theme. Moving in here, and seeing all of the grandma curtains, and then seeing the astronomical prices for blinds, I realized I don't know anything about window coverings.


    Anyhow, thanks so much for the help! You're right, this is all very exciting. Just hoping I don't make too many costly mistakes in the process.

  • pds290
    3 years ago

    Congratulations on your new home! I agree with cawaps that your inspiration photos are lovely and fit the style of your home well (it’s hard when someone’s cabin-style inspiration photos clash terribly with their split level in the suburbs). I also agree that the Ebay coffee table fits better with the esthetic you’re going for than the one from Wayfair. It can be a fun (and economical) process to find special items over time, if you have the patience for it.

    I think that the picture rail that is currently installed at ceiling level is too petite to serve as crown molding. The crown molding in your third and fourth inspiration photos would fit better with the other trim in your room than the more elaborate molding in the fifth photo. If you decide to have both a picture rail and crown molding (as in your first inspiration photo) you should tie it into the height of your doorways to make it look less busy. It does look like windows and doors may all come to the same height, but this doesn’t work if they don’t. I don’t think you need it visually though, unless to save your walls if you plan to rotate art often.

    I would put off the concerns about window treatments for now, unless you need them for blocking light while you sleep or for privacy from neighbors. Other decisions should come first.

    Definitely find a different spot for the TV!

    While I don’t always like painted fireplaces, given the color you’re planning for your room, I think white would look great and the fireplace as is would be dark and not live well with your wall color. Personally, I prefer the white inspiration fireplace to the one that matches the wall color.

    I look forward to watching this project unfold!

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Hello JudyG,


    I'm not certain what style of house this is, though I'm curious myself. The auditor's website simply says it's "conventional." I can tell you that it was built in 1918 here in North West Ohio. The previous owner, a local professor, artist, and movie reviewer moved in with his wife in 1974, and I believe moved the bottom of the staircase a bit to allow room for a coat closet, added a rear deck, an extension to the Model-T sized garage, and added lots of ugly wallpaper upstairs. LOL. Also, they remodeled the kitchen, and main bathroom, which will be the subjects for future posts. :D


    After his wife passed away, the owner moved out, and left it empty for 4 years, though kept it maintained. There are two doors besides the front one, one that goes out the rear-right side and the other that goes out to the rear-left side to the deck. Behind the garage as you're looking from the deck is a backyard that's been converted to a wild garden by the previous owner whose father took up horticulture after WWI and instilled that passion in him.


    Here are some pictures around the rest of the house:




  • User
    3 years ago

    I have some of the same inspiration pics! If you do Houzz photo searches for London interiors, or British interiors anywhere, you can find a lot of houses that are quite old, high ceilings, smallish rooms, that have nods to both history and pop, and lots of saturated colors. You might want to look at inspiration rooms on the website Farrow and Ball, the manufacturers of paint in the UK.



    Another fun interior design style to look at is contemporary Russian interiors.




  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Thanks so much pds290! Your advice is so helpful. I feel so much better about my current plan now.

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Thanks so much ital mover. Constantly on the lookout and saving inspiration pictures.

  • partim
    3 years ago

    Even with the picture lightened it's hard to see what the brick looks like.

  • apple_pie_order
    3 years ago

    Thanks for info and questions. The ebay coffeetable is striking and unique. The rough new one would not contribute to the look.


    For curtains- if you are thinking of throwing them out, first see if you can salvage the sheers for daytime privacy while you decide how much you can afford for window coverings (ten windows at a basic $100 each adds up). Throw the sheers in the wash on delicate setting with some oxy-clean or equivalent. Then get some paper shades from a big box store or amazon (6 shades for $20 https://www.amazon.com/Original-Filtering-Pleated-Shade-6-Pack/dp/B000SDX54M ) for nighttime privacy.


    For paint colors- start with an inspiration piece with the colors you love. It can be art, a ceramic bowl, an Oriental rug, and so on. Paint one small room such as a bathroom first to see what the color on the tiny card becomes when it's life size on the wall. If you want a popular recipe for how much color in a room: main color 70%, secondary color 20%, accent color 10%. Look at your second photo to see this in action. Avoid using several different saturated colors in the house: the psychedelic Jefferson Airplane San Francisco pad is not what your photos show. Now that you are spending money on furnishings, you can choose quality vintage pieces instead of thrift shop make-do pieces. Gradual acquisition rather than furnishing it all in a weekend allows you to get a sophisticated eclectic look rather than a younger person's "I got this from my roommate's parents' basement" look. Estate sales are full of 1970's things nowadays. Thrift shops have more 1980's things.



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    Look at older 1970's consoles for your electronics. Or just buy something unobtrusive from Target.


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  • cawaps
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    The time period is right for Foursquare style, but those were typically characterized by a hipped roof and symmetric façade. The gable roof and overall shape reminds me of Georgian or Federal style houses, but those also had symmetric façades with center entrances. If you hadn't said it was built in 1918, I would have guess it was older. Maybe it's just an atypical example of a Colonial Revival. I've got a house that doesn't fit neatly into any of the style boxes, either (broadly, mine is a classical revival style, but it doesn't fit the characteristics or time frames of the widely recognized classical revival styles).

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    here are closer pics of the fireplace.

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Thanks for the info cawaps. I'd love to learn more about the place and was planning on heading over to the town museum to see if they had old pics in their archives.

    That's great advice Yvonne. I'll be sure to do that.

  • Indecisiveness
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Maybe it’s the combination of the mantle and fireplace insert, but that fireplace doesn’t look original compared to the other pictures. Would you be able to ask the former owner if they covered up a different fireplace?

    I also wanted to comment that the woodwork throughout the house is lovely in the pictures and would be nice to keep original vs painting.

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Hey SashaDog!


    I actually did get to talk to the previous owner about the fireplace when he came by to drop off some extra keys. He never indicated that he did anything to the fireplace, but did state that when he first had it inspected after he bought the place that he thought he might convert it to gas, only to find that it was originally gas to begin with. I didn't know that gas fireplaces were that old, so that came as a bit of a surprise to me. I do believe the mantle is newer, as it doesn't match the rest of the woodwork with the exception of the stair railing which also looks more modern. I had originally planned on painting the mantel white, but not touching any of the other woodwork.

  • Indecisiveness
    3 years ago

    Maybe I’ve watched too much HGTV, wanting some dramatic reveal where you take a part the ugly fireplace to find the beautiful original perfectly hidden behind. ;)


    I also wouldn’t have thought gas fireplaces were around at the time that house was built. If you have the time, it’d be interesting to look into that. Maybe someone switched it before he bought it in 1974. It just looks very 60s/70s


    Do you want the fireplace itself to be modern, or are you looking at keeping it more fitting with the vintage of the house? For the latter, you may be able to find a more appropriate mantle in an antique/vintage/salvage store. the current insert will be a challenge to incorporate in either style, though.

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    Norwood Architects
    3 years ago

    I agree with the American foursquare assessment by one of the other posters. It also has elements of craftsman elements IMO. The American foursquare style was a reaction to the Victorian style which was much more ornate. So, as far as furniture I would think that craftsman, arts and crafts and mission style furniture would be period appropriate. But, since you style is more pop and art deco I think you could certainly go in that direction. When you go to resell paint can always be changed and furniture almost never stays. So, make the home your own to fit your style and your vibe. Good luck!

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Hey SashaDog, you may be right that it was replaced before the previous homeowner moved in. Maybe I can get more about out of the previous owner. A dramatic reveal would be great! lol. I'd rather a more vintage look in keeping with the house. Looking for a more appropriate mantel isn't a bad idea. As far as inserts are concerned, I just thought an insert was an insert, and hadn't even considered replacing it. Any recommendations on alternatives?


    Thanks for the information Norwood. So, yeah, looking at examples of craftsman and mission style furniture, it definitely does seem to fit the woodwork of the home. Hmm... I might have to rethink a few things. Maybe see if I can or want to incorporate them into my vision of the place...

  • apple_pie_order
    3 years ago

    Your city hall may have copies of permits issued for changes to the house, including the fireplace remodelling. The fireplace looks like 1960's brick and tile to me.

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Update!

    So...here's my current progress.

    Next up:

    * Put up crown moulding. Planning on going with something like this.

    * Get double-curtain rods for sheers and curtains. Something like this or this maybe?

    * Clean the current trim up and wash the windows.

    * Find a light fixture that will match the art deco chandelier that was in the dining room (I'm going to see if I can take that someplace to get it restored and rewired). I was thinking maybe something kinda Tiffany like? Maybe something like this? Or maybe something like what's in my first example picture in my first post (the 1920s Farmhouse in Georgia).

    * Find sconces for the fireplace.

    * Pull up the carpet to reveal/refinish the wood floor.

    * Find a decent Persian style carpet for the middle of the Living Room (maybe something like this).

    * Re-tile the tile in front of the fireplace (I have no idea where to go with that).

    * Paint the fireplace insert black.


    I'm also waiting on my couch to get here to replace the one that came with the home, and I want to replace that coffee table and chair. I'm also planning on adding lots of artwork and framed posters to the walls, and I may end up painting the picture rail blue and rehanging it under the crown moulding.


    Ultimately though, I have no idea what I'm doing, and currently I feel like I'm a bit in over my head. So far I've really appreciated all of your advice, and would love more input.

    I really like how the blue on the walls came out, but the white fireplace is such a dramatic change that it's taking me a bit to get used to it. I'm kinda feeling like I made a mistake there, but there's no going back now. I'm wondering if I should also paint the mantle white or keep it the color it is. I don't believe the current mantle is original woodwork as it doesn't quite match the rest of the trim, but it does closer resemble the staircase woodwork, which I believe was added in the 50s or 60s.

    What do you all think?









  • User
    3 years ago

    `i think your white brick on the fireplace is fine

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  • apple_pie_order
    3 years ago

    It's quite a dramatic change, well along on your way to your inspiration photos.


    Crown molding can be primed and painted before installation. It's a lot easier to paint it before putting it up. White would look good. Or you can stain it to match other woodwork.


    While you are looking for new light fixtures and waiting for your old chandelier to be refurbished, it helps to have adequate light to work in the room. Try eBay or Craigslist for used brass finish chandeliers from the 1980's-1990's, they go for a song nowadays. Pick those with at least five bulbs so you can see what you are working on.

  • cawaps
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I love the blue! Don't panic about the white yet; it could all come together when the rest of the elements are in place. It might be better with a less-bright white (cream, very light beige, or gray) BUT I definitely would wait until everything is in place to make the change.

    And I wouldn't worry about the mantel for now. It looks fine now. It might look better if it were white, or a little beefier, or whatever, but given what else is on your plate, accept it as "good enough for now." After everything else is done and you've had a chance to enjoy the space, only then if it is still bothering you should you revisit it.

    You say you have no idea what you're doing, but the fact that you know you need a plan, that you have a pretty good start on one, and are asking for help puts you MILES ahead of most people. There are a lot of steps ahead of you. Take them one at a time.

  • gakate
    3 years ago

    What a fun thread! The blue looks fab; thanks for coming back to show progress.


    I think you'll be able to find a great light fixture if you keep an eye out on ebay, craigslist and if you haunt Habitat Restore. (Not a fan of the tiffany style wayfair fixture) There's some great stuff here. Refinishing the floors (and then laying down a persian rug) is going to really work some magic.

  • User
    3 years ago
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    Some light fixtures and sconces I think might look nice in your space, although obviously some of the sconces don’t match the ceiling fixtures!


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    3 years ago
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  • cawaps
    3 years ago

    I am quite fond of Art Deco slip chandeliers. There don't seem to be any bargains out there, as it doesn't seem like the style was ever reproduced, so it's all 20's and 30's vintage. Very cool, though, and you can find sconces in the same style.

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    https://www.vintagehardware.com/proddetail.php?prod=28288


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  • roarah
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Lovely bones and congrats!

    I have a very similar house as yours. My fireplace is very similar but the previous owners painted my mantle ( and all molding but left the dark wood doors) instead of the bricks. I have charcoal walls rather than navy. Just an idea for stripping a mantle is far easier than stripping bricks. my crown molding is only slightly bigger than two inches and original.

  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Wow! So many great suggestions. Thank you all for the fantastic chandelier and sconce recommendations. Seems like not a lot of fans of the Tiffany style chandelier, so that's interesting to see. And also, thank you all so much for alleviating some of my concerns about my current direction. I really am having fun with this project, but sometimes I feel I need to step back and get other people's impressions, and make sure I'm still on target.

    roarah, love that just the mantle was painted in yours. That's not something I've seen much of, but maybe because I was so focused on painting the fireplace itself. I can't really go back now, so I'm just going to take cawaps' recommendation to live with it for a bit to see how it works when the rest of the pieces are in place. And if I hate it in the end (which I don't think I will) I can always repaint it or take up ital mover's advice and tile it.

    I'll keep you all updated as I continue moving forward!

  • User
    3 years ago

    Just wanted to clarify that I do like your fireplace as you have it now, so am not really advising you to tile it, just posted some photos of alternates in case you decide you’d like to do something else.


    I noticed in your inspiration photo that only a small portion of the fireplace unit is tiled. If I can find some photos representative of that option, I’ll post those.


    I actually like art glass and Tiffany, although I do think you need to be careful about the quality of some of the Tiffany knock offs that are out there. It helps though if you can find nice art glass that isn’t so familiar, or use it in a sconce or a table lamp as a touch, rather than a focus piece for the living room. Tiffany above a dining room table can sometimes be nicer because there people have a chance to sit and admire it


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  • User
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    This is nice with the mica sconces and the stronger definition under the mantle top


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  • User
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    By the way, that’s a great resource you find for a rug. The one you picked might blast away the impact of your blue, but maybe that’s what you want.


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  • Jason Von
    Original Author
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Hey Ital Mover. I totally got what you meant about the tile and the lighting options. I'm keeping the tile in mind for the future in case I'm not completely sold on the white down the road. It's good to have options.

    And yes, I loved your lighting suggestions in keeping with the eclectic look I want. I especially love the Modern Forms Aries LED Wall Sconces, and the Toltec Bow Chandelier In Black Copper, Blue Italian Glass. I don't think those two would go together very well unless I got the sconces in white or titanium or something. But I'm leaning pretty heavily towards the sconces all the same.


    Love the other ideas too. Lots to mull over, but I'm going to attempt to hold to apple_pie_order's advice that I don't rush anything.

  • Jason Von
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    It's been awhile since I made an update, but this is where I'm at now:

    • Crown moulding is installed and painted.
    • Double-curtain rods and sheer curtains are up, but talked to my aunt who mentioned that I should consider reinstalling them above the window to give the windows a longer sleeker look.
    • Took down the art deco chandelier to have it cleaned and fixed, but I accidentally tipped it over while it was on the floor and it shattered into a thousand pieces. Turns out it was made of cheap pewter. So I found and installed a Turkish style chandelier I received from a seller in Turkey on Etsy.
    • I also installed similar styled Turkish sconces (I'll be replacing the globes with more colorful ones soon).
    • I pulled up the carpet from both rooms.
    • I painted the fireplace insert black.
    • I painted the ugly gold lamp stands black, and added new shades.

    Things still left to do:

    1. I'm still looking for a chandelier for the living room.
    2. Repair and refinish the floors (the floor needs a number of boards refilled).
    3. Figure out what to do about the gap between the floor and the quarter-round/baseboard that was revealed after I pulled the carpet up.
    4. Replace current projector screen with a floor-rising one so that I'm no longer covering 80% of the front window at all times.
    5. Install a picture rail about an inch and a half under the crown moulding.
    6. Update/add electrical outlets (which will include an upgrade to my breaker).
    7. replace carpet in the living room with a Persian style carpet that's approx. 9' x 12'.
    8. Replace couch and coffee table.
    9. Retile the front of the fire-place.
    10. Have a number of the cracks in the plaster repaired.
    11. Acquire and hang paintings and framed posters on the walls.

    And that's just the Living Room and Dining Room. Sigh...