It that the tough cut of beef resembling another non-favorite, cube steak? ETA — oh, guess not. But I can think of better things to do with ground beef. Dandan noodles.

I never thought of "devil's advocate" as being on the losing side of an argument but rather taking the position that is less popular as a way to point out the flaws in the popular pov. And that wasn't necessarily being cantankerous, but a useful tool in testing the strength of the argument.

Stacey_mb Another enlightening post. Thank you.

Or that one day the gates of hell were left open and the bats made as quick an escape as possible to the earth.