I actually was surprised to get letters from 2 former employers when I turned 55. I had vested with both (7 yrs with each of them) and had modest 401k accts, so I thought that was all there was. We were recovering from a personal bankruptcy so I had never been able to save much in personal contributions. However, both employers purchase annuities for employees that are vested. Now, annuities by definition mean that you are dependent on the life insurance company holding that annuity to stay in business! My FIL, for example, worked for Mead Paper Corp. for decades, and lost his entire pension when Mead was purchased and the insurance company subsequently went bankrupt. So I'm not counting absolutely on them, but it's a nice little "boost" if it comes to me. My husband is a state employee and his pension is pretty safe. The agency agreed, at the last union contract, to start funding the pension obligations at a rate double what they were doing before. This will put them as one of the few public agencies to be on a sound basis, actuarially speaking, for their retired workers. His 401k is with PERS, the largest pension fund in the US. An extremely well managed, influential, and progressive pension fund, it is also one of the very few government funds at any level to completely forbid any financial contributions of any sort being accepted by the treasury managers. If you want to know why that's important, you can see the current issue of Forbes magazine for a very enlightening article on how North Carolina's pension manager pays high fund fees, receives substantial contributions from fund companies, yet produces extremely poor investment results for the state employees.

Bill, In order to take advantge of IRS Rule 72(t), which does permit early, penalty-free withdrawals, you will be required to take regularly scheduled distributions from the 401K for at least 5 years. If you retire at 55, that would mean until you are 60. There are three permitted ways of determining how large each distribution must be, the specifics of which are too complicated to go into here. However, Bankrate.com does have a calculator which you can use to figure out how much you would receive annually using each of the three methods. Plugging in your numbers as best I could, I calculated that your minimum annual distribution would be about $32,000 and your maximum about $44,500. That corresponds to a minimum monthly income of about $2670 and a max of about $3790. Note that you need to input the "applicable Federal midterm rate," which is 2.44% for March, 2011. Obviously, it will probably be different during the month your plan is implemented, should you go that route. So any results you get using the calculator will be somewhat rough, but at least will get you in the ballpark. The biggest red flag that hovers over 72Ts is that these early distributions, especially if you take the maximums, may result in you depleting your account during your lifetime. If I were doing this, I'd stick with the minimums. If you have any intention of doing this, you MUST find a professional tax advisor who is very experienced in setting up these plans. It's very easy to screw things up and leave you stuck with paying big tax penalties. Here is a link that might be useful: 72(t) distribution rates

Remember the old saying in the stock market, "Sell in May ...and go away!"?? Good advice again this year, it seems. Though October has brought bad news, on several occasions, over the years, one would have thought that to be an improbable scenario this year, what with a big election in the offing ... but it was true again this year. Anyone game for some financial shenanigans? You should have a five to ten year time horizon for such a project as this, but it could work out in as low as three years. Canadian dollar was at par a few months ago, now about 85 cents U.S. buys a Canadian dollar, as people whose money'd fled the U.S. earlier, returned after the recent govt. support: does "BBB" now stand for "Broke Bankers' Bailout"? A recent survey says Canadian banks are among the solidest of the industrialized world, and much of the Canadian market is based on resource stocks, which have taken a hit lately ... but does anyone think that petroleum stocks are going to stay down for the long term? Other resources, including gold, either. Have certificates for some of your mutual funds that you plan to hold for a long time issued, likely at no fee, or some individual stock certificates, usually at a fee here of $50. or so each. Use your certificates, and CDs (preferable, as their value stays constant) if available, as collateral for a fully-secured loan at your favourite (i.e. low-rate) lender. If your lender is willing to lend up to 50% of the value of the underlying asset, consider borrowing up to possibly $30.00 per $100.00 of equity (which means that if the value of those assets drops by 40% to $60.00, you will still be covered 2:1). When the amount of your loan goes to over 50% of the current value of the underlying asset, the bank comes to ask you for either more collateral (stock, mutual fund certifs., CD, etc.) ... or to pay off some of the loan to restore the 50% loan level, called a "margin call" - and that's today ... tomorrow at the latest. I don't want to get one of them, and never have. If you don't have extra collateral on hand, or cash to pay down some of the loan ... don't crowd the margin level! Such extra assets are more likely to be available to folks nearing retirement, as it's probable that they have various investments, and more of them, available to use as collateral if needed. As in gambling, the gal/guy with the good hand who has surplus assets can keep raising as s/he feels appropriate. Maybe buy some quality U.S. stocks whose price has been beaten down recently, plus some Canadian stocks ... oil and gas, pipeline, minerals, rail, possibly a bank ... and some gold? These are some representative Canadian stocks: I'm not saying that they're the best choice. Suncor (SU.TO) has a substantial position in the tar sands with Syncrude, share price 59, 60, 55 at mid year, 26 in early Oct., now about 25. Putting money into development of more cost-effective ways to pull the oil out of the sand, it pays 0.20, 0.75%. Petrocan (PCA.TO) was 54, 52, 48 at mid year ... 23.70 early Oct., now 25. Pays 0.59 - 2.29%. Nexen (NXY.TO) was 38, 36, 34 ... 14.01 early Oct., now 16.46, 19.14 ... 18.90 last Fri - now 17.95. Pays 0.15 - 0.84%. En Cana (ECA.TO) (one of largest suppliers of natural gas) was 89, 83, 78 ... now 55, 61, 58.15 (Fri) 56.94 (Tue). Pays 1.431 - 2.51%. ________________________ Some companies turned into unit trusts several years ago, agreeing to pay out about 85% of earnings, and avoid tax ... but when some big cos. (e.g. Canada's largest phone co.) planned to do that ... the gov't cut them off at the pass ... said they'd all have to turn into corporations by 2011.(1) Canadian Oil Sands (COS-un.TO) major player with Syncrude in the tar sands, containing more oil than in Saudi ... in 1st qtr. '08 was 32 - 46, in 2nd qtr. was 40 - 54, in 3rd qtr. 38 - 54, as low as intra-day 23 in early Oct., now 26.76. Pays $3.55, 12.6% ... possible revision downward? Pengrowth (PGF-un.TO) was 18.13, 17.93, 17.70 ... 9.62 early Oct., now 12.00 ... annual payout over $2.00 per unit - but don't count on that level being maintained. I own a few units ... thinking of buying more. Enerplus (ERF-un.TO) was 46, 44, 41 ... 25.50 in Oct. ... now 28.28 ... pays about $5 (about 18%) annually per unit - probably also due for adjustment downward, due to oil price drop. Their rep is to speak to an investment group in our city tonight, so I've been doing some checking. __________________________________ Potash (POT.TO) (potash fertilizer, in major ongoing international demand to increase agricultural yields) 213, 223, 211 in summer ... 102 in early Oct., now 95 - 97 ... payout about 0.421, about 0.43%. Check their multi-year chart. Teck Cominco (TCK-B.TO) (base metal miner-processor) I bought at 35 early Jan, was 50 in May, 45, 41 in summer, 16.36 early Oct., 11.28 last Fri (payout 1.00 - about 8.75%), 8.75 Tues. (payout over 10%): I've been thinkig of buying more ... watching it closely. Several of our major mining companies bought out, owned offshore, shares no longer avail. to us ... I figure that this one may be a candidate ... especially at low price per share. That usually causes share price rise of 10 - 25%, even 35% overnight. TD Canada Trust (TD.TO) (one of our 6 national banks) was 63, 58, 58, 60 in summer, 52 early Oct., now 55.86 maintained its value about the best during the U.S. sub-prime problems ... they run a smart ship ... paying about 4%. CN Rail, one of our two major national railroads, recently bought substantial U.S. trackage ... shares not avail. in Canada - cf. CNI on NYSE. Enbridge (ENB.TO) (major pipeline) 44, 44, 43 ... early Oct was 35, now is about 40 (I've owned it about 14 years, turned 75 to upwards of 480 during that period). Pays some over 3%. TransCan. Corp. (TRP.TO) (major pipeline, plus) was 38, 37, 38 ... 31 in Oct, now 35 ... payout about 4%. Check stocks' info at Yahoo-> Finance, near top left enter symbol in small dialogue box, "Get quotes" to get much current info ... or give company name to get symbol. Chart at lower right shows price movement today and clicking on letters under the chart allows viewing charts over several days, months and years. At some below top left, clicking on "Historical prices" allows one to view daily open, high, low and close prices, plus dividend payouts, back several years for some stocks. Also daily volume ... which is often quite a lot higher when stock price near a top or a bottom. When stocks are at bargain prices ... if I can borrow to invest, fully secured, at 4.75%, paying interest only monthy and deductible ... and earn 4% (taxed at very low rate) ... and I gain the value of inflation ... that looks like a worthwhile opportunity. So - prices drop some more, later? If they stay down for a while, I may whimper a bit, as I could have bought later and enjoyed the substantial runup over the next few years ... but suppose the market is near bottom now? Not much use showing up at the station after the train has pulled out! Best to buy on several occasions as one believes the market to be nearing bottom, as it's volatile, then, making several false starts back up. I hope that you're all enjoying fall. I was picking some mature peas and beans yesterday plus radish pods for seed, moving some squash into the barn, lifting some beets ... and my fingers were doing some complaining, as it was a few degrees above freezing. More beets, turnips and carrots to lift today. Broccoli seems to be minimally affected by frosts, still producing (mainly small sized) florets - but that'll soon be through. ole joyful P.S. Want a real gamble? Our major phone co., Bell Canada, covering 2/3 of total Canadian population in Ontario and Quebec, more or less widows' and orphans' stock, wanted to go unit trust, then gov't. changed rules to block them. Then BCE (BCE.TO) made a deal with a major pension plan and buyout artist, backed by billions of loans from several banks, to buy out shareholders at $42.75 and go private ... when stock price in low 30s ... stock price went to about $39., but somewhat below the offering price, and usually price jumps to right up near the offer price. That was just before the U.S. subprime mortgage barnyard byproduct hit the fan, which problem led to this issue's huffing and puffing, lawsuits by current bondholders, etc., and several delays in the time for the deal to be consummated. Stock price continued around 39 - 40 through the end of '07. I'd bought some at about 28 a couple of years ago,and felt that, with the deal to go through in a few months, to buy some more about 38 last Christmas looked like a good idea. Early in this year the stock price began slipping, and the date of completion was postponed ... plus the company decided to suspend paying dividends. Stock was just over 35 at the end of June, recovered to 40s in August, then down again to 33 in early Oct., recovered to about 37 now ... with deal to have been completed in early Nov. ... that's ... of this year. One of the backers is the Royal Bank of Scotland, which recently received an infusion of credits from the Bank of England ... so are they going to be willing/able/allowed to complete a substantial deal ... in the (former) colony ... any time soon? Price closed at 37.90 Tuesday Nov. 11 ... want to take a chance on the deal completing, at the originally agreed price of $42.75, any time soon? o j

When I heard/read about the &%$#!@'s like AIG top dogs I think it's time to give serious thought to holding old fashioned Public Hangings! To see this story with its related links on the guardian.co.uk site, go to http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/oct/07/creditcrunch.useconomy Executives at bailed-out AIG stayed at $500 a night Californian resort A week earlier the Federal Reserve had to extend a huge credit line to AIG to keep the troubled firm from collapsing Andrew Clark in New York Tuesday October 7 2008 guardian.co.uk The world's largest insurance company, AIG, spent $440,000 (?250,000) on a lavish corporate retreat at one of California's top beachside resorts just a week after accepting an $85bn emergency loan from the US government to stave off bankruptcy. Details of the getaway emerged at a congressional hearing today where lawmakers expressed outrage at AIG executives "wining and dining" at the height of a financial crisis. An invoice from the St Regis resort in Monarch Beach, south of Los Angeles, shows that AIG spent $139,375 on rooms, $147,301 on "banquets", $23,380 on spa treatments and $6,939 on golf at an eight-day company event which began on September 22. A week earlier, on September 17, the Federal Reserve had to extend a huge credit line to AIG to keep the troubled firm from collapsing due to vast liabilities on risky financial insurance policies. "Average Americans are suffering economically," said Henry Waxman, chairman of the House oversight committee. "They are losing their jobs, their homes and their health insurance. Yet less than one week after the taxpayers rescued AIG, company executives could be found wining and dining at one of the most exclusive resorts in the nation." Set in 172 acres of grounds on a bluff overlooking the Pacific ocean, the St Regis resort describes itself as "Tuscan inspired". Rates for its 325 rooms are typically upwards of $500 a night and the travel guide Fodor's gives the place a rave review, saying: "Exclusivity and indulgence carry the day here; you can even have someone unpack for you." An AIG spokesman said the event was to entertain independent insurance salesmen of AIG American General - one of the company's main US operations which offers life, health and accident policies. "It was a recognition event for independent agents of AIG American General who distribute insurance policies," said the spokesman. "It was planned months ago." In written evidence to Congress, AIG's former chief executive, Robert Willumstad, blamed an "unexpected and unprecedented market-wide crisis of confidence" for the company's financial predicament. AIG wrote off more than $50bn in unrealised losses on complex mortgage-related instruments such as credit default swaps. But Willumstad, who stood down as a condition of the federal bail-out, blamed mark-to-market accounting rules for accentuating the impact of the company's exposure, prompting downgrades by credit rating agencies. "Looking back at my time as CEO, I don't believe AIG could have done anything differently," said Willumstad. "The market seizure was an unprecedented global catastrophe." Copyright Guardian Newspapers Limited 2008