Pondless waterfall? In-ground water feature? Show me what you've got.
CJ Mac
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converting to pondless...what do I need
Comments (10)Unless you are planning to remove the liner you will have a problem. 6000 gallons is a lot of volume and rain would begin to fill it up and would get nasty smelling in a hurry. That doesn't begin to address the leaf debris and dirt that would build up in it. Rocks are a lot more expensive than dirt, too. A pondless water feature is just that, it doesn't have a pond, just a fairly small reservoir that is a catch basin and a place to put the pump. The rocks in it don't go very deep. The catch basin can be wider than the splash area but not much. It will be important to have a way to expose the pump for maintenance and cleaning. The pump you have, will likely be too large, in gallons per hour to work in the relatively small amount of water needed for a pondless feature. The water would be pumped too fast to collect in the reservoir. Have you looked at designs of various pondless features? Can you give us a bit more info on the design you have in mind? Diameter of the feature and height of the fall would be good. Would it be just a trickle or a small fall or maybe a fairly wide fall? Do you envision a filtering system?...See MorePond less waterfall spillway feature question
Comments (2)I have often considered a pondless water feature. Your idea sounds great. Yeah, $500 each for the color changing lights would deter me from using them too. Are the spillways pipes coming through the wall or like shelves (sort of like a dustpan)? I don't know if you are wanting to make the spillways yourself or if they are kits. To get an idea, I just checked the Atlantic site and saw the Colorways system. Is that what you are talking about? I can't answer about the LED lights. I don't think the strips are expensive but you have to know how to connect them to a controller of some kind if you are DIY. My boyfriend uses the LED strips for projects but he has experience. OH.. I just re-read your post and you want only information from people who have done this. Never mind. My information would be only from ideas I've had....See MorePondless Waterfall pumping issues
Comments (22)It looks like a vault to me from the square top, unless they've changed their products. The centipede top is (was) a rectangle, more rounded corners. In the last picture the gravel looks way too small. At this point (latest pic) I expected to see much larger rock. When you cleaned the rock I assume you didn't remove any rock below the top of the AquaBoxes. True? I don't know if the installer put that undersized stone in there. If they did I would call the installer one last time and say undersized rock was used, you documented this and if you don't hear back within 24 hours you will file a complain with Aquascape, the Better Business Bureau and Yelp. Whether this is an Aquascape certified installer or not I would register a complaint with them. These things are ridiculously expensive meaning Aquascape makes a lot of profit and they really don't like some yahoo contractor cutting a corner so stupidly as not using the correct size rock and giving them a bad name. Give Aquascape the installer's number and they might give him a call too. Unless of course this was because of the DIY clean out. To remove all the gravel you have to remove at least some of the large rocks since it looks like the large rocks are sitting on the gravel. Don't want for them to fall down. Personally I don't like that building scheme but it is common. If that size of gravel was also used below the AquaBoxes it has likely worked its way into the vault's openings and that could be the main clog. In that case all the gravel would have to be removed and correct size rock purchased and added. Another shortcut is to buy a smaller pump. Or place a ball valve someplace on the pipe/hose going from the pump to the falls which may not be easy. And long term this might not work as more small rock clogs the openings more....See Morepondless waterfall
Comments (6)Well if you don't add the rocks, don't you end up with a pond? The displacement problem could be real if your stream is sustantial. What would happen is that you would not have enough water to start the system. OK, an example. If your stream were 100yds long, and your resevoir/pond was 10x10x2'. The pond would drain before the water could get back to the pump. And if you did get it full and running, and the power went out, the pond would overflow, then when the power came back on, you would be running the pump dry for some length of time. I know that the example is extreme, but it's easier to visuallize. If you have a good builder, they should take the displacement into account when sizing the "pond/resevoir". If you quiz them on this and the go "Huhh?", then get a different builder. Greg...See More
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3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoI did have a small fish pond but was tired of the upkeep, so we downsized to a water feature this past summer. We picked out a large polystyrene flower pot, my guy coated the inside with flex seal to make it leak proof and did the work to revise the waterfall into a cache basin. No fish. He used my existing pump which was only a few years old. I still haven’t finished revising any landscaping but working on a plan now since the temps are cooler.
You could just as easily just do a bubbler feature without the waterfall.
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