Uncharted territory - behind the fridge
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Comments (24)No no no no moebus. Miele and Gaggenau did not partner to build a Turkish fridge factory. That was totally a Bosch mothership decision ! Miele came to them hat in hand so to speak asking them to build a unit to spec so that they didn't get shut out of or left behind in one of their largest markets - the USA. Miele had no U.S. fridge offering and there was no way they were going to be able to peddle one of their midget euro offerings from Liebherr here nor did getting a local manuf. to build one make much sense. Gaggenau refrigeration was simply along for the ride on deal. The first units to be sold in the USA out of that plant were labeled with the Thermador badge and BSH heavily promoted the "Freedom" collection before releasing the other brands. Units labeled Bosch were offered for a while , but never sold well and were mostly scrapped. I think they still sell a 30" model on that platform. Gaggenau was bringing up the rear on their rollout. The Miele models were even later to arrive stateside and feature some parts that are shipped from Miele Germany to Turkey to be integrated into the base platform before being boxed up. BSH is climbing a slippery slope if the think they are going to sell a made in China built in fridge here for close to ten grand....See MoreHayward vs Pentair Automation
Comments (44)How about BEER PARTY, WATERFALL2, CAVEFALL, LAMINARS, SLIDE, or anything else in your backyard that doesn't fit in Hayward's limited (not even listed in their user manual) predefined list of names? Last I checked, EasyTouch and IntelliTouch had about 100 pre-defined circuit names that could be assigned to any circuit. And if you don't find one that you like, you can create a custom name. Just curious, have you ever used an EasyTouch system? I'm surprised you have not been pressured by your hundreds of customers towards installing an EasyTouch or IntelliTouch along with an IntelliFlo pump. In the last year, more than 50% of my clients are asking for this combo. Probably the best thing for anyone to do would be to read Hayward's manual: http://www.haywardnet.com/products/manuals/pdfs/Manual237.pdf and then read Pentair's EasyTouch manual: http://mysite.verizon.net/res008k5/easytouch.pdf and then decide which system you would want based on the available features. I think it will be pretty obvious which system is more robust (and not just by a little). Remember that I am biased so read the manual and decide for yourself!!! PS - Yes, one of my clients has a circuit called BEER PARTY on his IntelliTouch system. It is a macro circuit so when he presses one button, it turns on the following: Cabana lights turn on Landscape lights go on All 6 laminars go on All 5 IntelliBrite pool lights come on One IntelliBrite pool light (in the spa) comes on Heater fires and heats spa to 99F Spa jets turn on Air bubbler turns on...See MoreFinalizing Layout - L+Island or Peninsula Take 2
Comments (41)Yes, Lisa, I'm probably letting form rule in these latest renditions, yep. I just really love that chunky island inspiration pic. I did manage to squeeze the must-haves into both of the newer options, though it was admittedly much harder with the chunky island. Both assume that there is definitely pantry space in the DR area. There's obviously zero food storage happening here, other than the spice pullouts on each side of the stove. The counter-balance, though, is that the other compromise point was putting the sink/DW on the island LR side instead of keeping one long counter clear of a sink or stove like I did in my first two options. I think that might be an example of putting function over form in my small space? I read an article yesterday which asserted that in a small kitchen, going to a galley can be preferable over a tight U because you get away from corners. I like the symmetry that eliminating the corner allows on that exterior wall - and I was able to fit in two 36" lowers. It definitely allows more drawers, drawers, drawers. I'm just not sure I like the blank wall. Lisa, of the 4 options, what's your pick for the best layout for me? Thanks for your vote, mercymygft. Everything is still on the table and your vote is appreciated. If you pop back in, do you prefer the L+island with a pantry or not (those pics, based on lisa's suggestions) are from Oct 29 and are mid-thread). You have to imagine that there is counter jutting out where the chairs are because the program won't put in overhang....See MoreQuestions Re: dish drawers, wine fridge & cabs with chickenwire
Comments (12)Thanks, everyone, for the advice. I, too, have wondered about dust getting into a cabinet that had chicken wire. But I guess, as Allison said, if you were in that cabinet frequently, getting plates, glasses, etc., dust may not build up. By the way, Allison, I've seen your kitchen before and I never tire of looking at it. It's gorgeous! I'm wondering if any cabinet manufacturer might make doors that have glass and then the chicken wire behind the glass so that you get the look, but don't have to worry about dust. So it sounds like F&P are still basically the only show in town as far as dish drawers. I remember seeing them when they first came out years ago, and liking them. I was thinking that maybe other companies had wandered into that territory by now, but as the one poster said Kitchenaid's dish drawers are still basically F&P, so I will likely just go with a single F&P if I do a full remodel. Any advice on which brands of wine fridges are the best?...See More- 6 years ago
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