Scary!!!

All those folks who are "exercising their rights" to not wear a mask pitch fits when stores/businesses tell them they have to wear a mask to enter or remain inside. They fail to realize that the stores/businesses have the right to require masks and they do not have to allow everyone in.

And freedumb!!

No shirt, no shoes, no mask - no service!

Love it!

Do they require masks on a n#&e beach?

It's funny. I remember when seatbelt, motorcycle and bicycle helmet laws went into affect. Many people were upset about those, but now most of us wouldn't consider getting into a car without buckling up.

Sadly, my state repealed the helmet law...

And I am familiar with that splendid meme 😀

@carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b - when we moved here 20 years ago, I asked my brother, a former motorcycle owner, what he thought about the helmet laws here - his response was priceless.

"It like buying a dozen eggs without the carton."

Governor, don't tell me what to do!

Bragu - a see-through mask. Let's ask someone who would know. Jim - What say you?

Lol. I'm not one for those kind of beaches but I do I think that the see-through mask is great. Particularly for someone like my niece who reads lips as her deafness is nearly 100%.

I like the look of the clear mask. Not sure if it works well or not. Have not tried it and am not associated with them.

https://www.theclearmask.com/product

Our n*d£ beach here is called Wreck Beach.

bpath, thank you for that one.

Kathyg, I especially like the last one: some of you may get sick, but almost everyone survives food poisoning.

In California, all beaches are closed, and so it would not matter. However, on the Russian River, the beaches might not be closed, since it is not the ocean.

Austin has a clothing optional beach on Lake Travis, and I doubt people would wear masks there, but maybe...

https://www.theclearmask.com/product

That clear mask doesn't look right to me -- why is her nose practically uncovered. I have ordered a clear face shield recommended by a friend of mine. I hope it lives up to the recommendations. A friend who works in a chronic care home uses one two -- covers from forehead to below the chin.

I think there is a nude beach near Galveston. Beaches closed right now, but as long as you are outside and can stay six feet apart, I don't believe you are required to wear a mask.

Dh was flipping through the news earlier. There is now a drive through strip club in Houston. Those ladies all appeared to wearing masks.

I can't help but wonder how many of those refusing to wear a mask would eat at the "Freedom Cafe". My guess would be none! Thanks for posting that, bpath!

I like the idea of the clear mask. I didn't see if said whether or not they are washable, or are disposable. While I can't actually read lips, I am hearing impaired and being able to see a person's mouth when they are speaking does help understanding. Not to mention it helps to understand their 'mood' and or intentions, too! Recognition figures in there, too, the other day I didn't recognize my own granddaughter until she said something, and I recognized her voice.

Rusty

I have

Please update us, bleusblue2, after you have tried it out. And a link, please?

Most of the shields are disposables that you slide into a band that goes around your head. Some have holes in them that need to match the tighteners in the headband others the band is tight enough that until it has been worn several times the shield will not slip out. I did not buy but saw some at wally world.

There are industrial shield masks that are much thicker than these which can be purchased normally used by machinists or woodworkers who for whatever reason can not wear goggles and mouth coverings.

What happened to theI wear a mask to protect you and you wear a mask to protect me mantra? A shield is open at the bottom and the sides. It allows all your breath and droplets out the bottom. So who are you protecting now? No one, possibly including yourself.

I've wondered that same thing about shields, wildchild, I'm hoping someone with actual knowledge will step in and explain.

Rusty

graywings123

Please update us, bleusblue2, after you have tried it out. And a link, please?

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I ordered on Etsy from EndlessRealSolutions -- I won't have it for awhile as It's going first to family in the States -- their shipping rate to Canada is just too expensive.

Just now I did look up shields compared to masks and found this:

https://www.aarp.org/health/healthy-living/info-2020/shields-compared-to-masks.html

Interesting but it still goes against all we have been told about air born virus. Even the nostrils on my turned up nose point downward negating the ability of my exhalations from landing on surfaces and a short person would be more at risk from taller people I would think. Maybe they would work if all else were followed like social distancing but I don't see that happening with masks and the shield could possibly make people feel safer yet and less likely to distance.

As many of you know I am not a fan of the masks. I believe social distancing is the real key, but the shields seem like a worse option unless one is face to face with someone at the same level.

In the trades the shields are used to prevent flying particles from hitting one in the face, wood chips, machine chips, sparks etc. not vapors. I would think it would be similar in a medical setting. They would prevent prevent bodily fluid splatter, not vapors or viruses.

This is from the CDC. Face shields aren't recommended.

"It is not known if face shields provide any benefit as source control to protect others from the spray of respiratory particles. CDC does not recommend use of face shields for normal everyday activities or as a substitute for cloth face coverings. Some people may choose to use a face shield when sustained close contact with other people is expected. If face shields are used without a mask, they should wrap around the sides of the wearer’s face and extend to below the chin. Disposable face shields should only be worn for a single use. Reusable face shields should be cleaned and disinfected after each use."

A clerk at the fabric store was wearing a shield and I was surprised by the amount of dry spit on the inside of her shield. I wondered about the open sides, though.

^^^ooh

Yep "My Body My CHOICE" pretty much lost us the war. No man's an island and every choice we make affects another EVERY TIME!!!

I find the masks uncomfortable and a bit difficult to breath through, but I think I will stick with them. And continue to do my utmost best to maintain the 6 ft. social distancing rule.

Last Thursday I decided to make my now once a month trip to Walmart for needed groceries, etc. They are still watching the entrance-ways and offering hand sanitizer. They didn't seem to be monitoring the number of shoppers entering, but might have been. The store was not crowded at all, and all but one customer I saw were wearing masks. Just one young man was mask-less, and he seemed in a big hurry to get out. Not many seemed to be paying attention to the aisle direction markers, but it is very easy to get to concentrating on shopping and not thinking about which direction you're going in. Most shoppers seemed to be conscientious about the social distancing.

Then Friday I again went out, this time to HEB, again for my once a month trip there. BIG mistake! Store was crowded, no employees watching the entrances, no offer of hand sanitizer or wipes, no evidence of carts being wiped down. The aisles were more clearly marked with directions than Walmart's were but no one seemed to pay attention. People were in general almost rude in their behavior towards each other, completely disregarding social distancing. I was looking for a certain brand of bacon when I noticed a women in front of me, facing me, about to shove my cart out of the way with her cart, so I was going to back up so she could get what she wanted and get out of the way. I took one step backwards and ran into a guy who was that close behind me! I hadn't been aware he was there, so close. I don't like strangers that close to me even under normal circumstances! I was too shocked to say anything to him. But I did pick up the few items I needed and got out of there as fast as I could. Perhaps being the day before a holiday had something to do with it, but I don't really think that is any excuse.

Rusty