Yes. Two different drawers. This was advice I got here, and, from what others have said about things they'd do differently, I'm sure it's the best answer if you can do it. The trick is to have it in a place that is completely convenient and easy to use, as well as handy to the Advantium. With a dedicated place right at point of use, you're more likely to use the oven to its fullest. People who don't have easy access to swapping the trays oven find it's not worth the bother. It doesn't have to be a drawer, however. If you have a tall cabinet for vertical baking sheets over your ovens, for instance (the trays are 16"+ in diameter and the wire rack is 19.75" wide for a 30" nominal Advantium), you could have a place for the rack and a division for the trays, with other divisions for other items, so long as you feel safe putting the heavy glass tray up. Maybe have a holder for it. Or a different, and also convenient place for the glass tray. The best idea is an easy to get into drawer right there, where you can sort through the trays to find the one you want without having to take them all out, or slide the rack out from underneath the trays, and drop in the glass tray on top. The few extra items I have in the drawer don't interfere with the swapping. I have a friend who has exactly that 12" drawer at the bottom and finds it very inconvenient for the Advantium. The bending to get them is an issue, especially for the glass tray, and having them stacked with other items doesn't work at all well. If you need to conserve space, since two 6" drawers don't hold what one 12" drawer does, a good compromise might be to have a roll out tray shelf inside the 12" drawer for your Advantium pieces. Just 6" off the bottom would help the bending for them issue in terms of finding which tray you want, and you don't need a very deep drawer for the Advantium bits. Okay, I just measured. With the wire rack, two plain trays and one ridged ("grill") tray stacked up with the glass tray on top, the stack is right under 2" tall. So if you put a roll out in your lower drawer, it could take up 3" total and still leave you with 7" interior space. You might prefer having your oven those 6" higher. I would. :) BTW, they do only show the GE drawer with the trays, but in stacking everything as I just did, I realized that they might get the wire rack in front to back, and just not have it showing in the pictures. It does waste space, however. It just has wings in the front covering the extra width past the trays. No room in the corners for the potholders. :)

Autumn, if you're asking me personally what do I think? I don't like having my ovens so low. I love my double wall ovens. But for someone with a small kitchen, like my sister, who doesn't cook a lot, it works great. The upper oven is plenty big for most items. I think it was the perfect choice for her. If it was mine, I definitely could manage and it would be doable. I've hauled 20lb turkeys it and out of it and have managed. The upper oven is plenty tall enough to bake a casserole, but not tall enough to handle a loaf pan. It was a HUGE step up from her previous 30" range with a single oven. If I was limited space wise to a 30" range and wanted double ovens, I'd definitely go this route.

Thanks anyway. I found it.

PM, thanks for pointing that out. Yes, people have been talking about that since we got here but it's important to repeat. Doing that makes the pages load a lot faster. Bigger files take an appreciable time to download, and calling them from a third party server gets all up in the security software and slows things down too. So long as Houzz doesn't mind giving up the server space for it, I don't see the harm. If a picture is online, even in a supposedly secure site, it can be made into a greeting card in Scotland (happened to a KF member some years back). I've often Googled images and landed in someone's "private" photo account. Your best guards against that is to take crappy pictures and give them unspecific names. Last night I didn't bother to resize the screen shots, and you can see how the Houzz utility resized and blurred them. The top image is just a little smaller. The middle one is a lot smaller because I have CF zoomed a lot. The last one is much *bigger* than it was. The bread doesn't look as blurry but that might be because it's bread. I had reduced it to 800 pixels wide, and then Houzz did its 500 thing. One thing to remember with JPEGs is that they're also lossy, so each time they're saved they degrade a little. I usually resize camera photos, like of the bread, so that all those extra pixels don't slow downloads, but with the Houzz system that's not necessary. If you right click on your image you can choose view image and it should give the URL and size of the image, which will show you that it's on Houzz and the size info. You may also have a choice of View Image Info on the image's right click context menu. The crackup is that you can see there that they add their standard keywords so people looking for architect might be slapped with a shot of the file upload window. :) Cathy, thanks for the compliment --- Sol, I too am mesmerized by Thumper's picture. :)