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Blush Noisette or Sally Holmes

Marigold33 NY-Z7

3 years ago

I'm trying to decide on whether to get Blush Noisette or Sally Holmes. Anyone who can share their experience with either one or who have both of these roses would be appreciated. I'm also looking for stand out colors.

Thank you.

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roseseek
3 years ago
If scent is important to you, Blush Noisette. If large splashes of pale pink and yellow, fading to cream then white like an enormous hydrangea would please you, then Sally Holmes. I would expect Sally Holmes to be a bit more "Arctic Hardy" than the Noisette simply from their genetics. Sally would also appear to be more shade tolerant due to her heavy dose of multiflora background. Sally's petals are also more durable in hot sun and water stress conditions. And, Sally seems to set fewer hips than Blush Noisette, at least in the conditions under which I've grown them. Both are lovely roses. You would probably enjoy both of them.
Tammy (Southern Ont) Zone 4/5 USDA
3 years ago
This is my two year old Sally Holmes and I’m obsessed with her. To me, she looks like something out of a fairytale. Soooooo glad I got her last year. Easily one of my favourites now. I’m in Zone 5/6 Ontario.
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida-9a-ish)
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Sally, she is gorgeous!! This is next on my list.
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Marigold33 NY-Z7
Original Author
3 years ago
Roseseek scent isn't an issue, thank you for the information.

I think I'm going to opt for Sally Holmes! How big can she get? I'm in NY Z7.
roseseek
3 years ago
You're welcome, Marigold. Sally will grow taller if given support like you would a climber. If pruned harder and left free standing, she will remain shorter and get bushier. I've only grown her in Zones 9b and 10a and she can be 6' - 8' by the same as a bush and well over 12' by nearly that wide if supported and trained like a climber. Her canes are relatively limber, so training her like a climber isn't difficult. Unless where you're going to plant her gives her protection from your coldest weather, she will likely be smaller there. I'm sure you're going to love her, though.
Marigold33 NY-Z7
Original Author
3 years ago
Thanks for the tip roseseek, that's very helpful!
roseseek
3 years ago
You're welcome! I'm glad I could help!
Marigold33 NY-Z7 thanked roseseek
dianela7analabama
3 years ago

Another vote for Sally. I apologize I missed the window for a good picture on this one, but I wanted to show you the size of those blooms. This is a single stem of a young own root plant. The individual blooms are cute, but when you have these huge clusters she is just spectacular.
roseseek
3 years ago
One of the most beautiful arrangements I've ever seen was a MASS of Sally Holmes clusters, freshly opening and full of the primrose, apricot, pale lemon, beginning to mature to the cream tones, in a large bowl used for a baby shower. Like the most perfect hydrangea you could imagine, on steroids. Those flower heads can be MASSIVE.

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