Long blooming clematis for SE Michigan Zone 5b
lovemycorgi z5b SE michigan
3 years ago
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Comments (8)Well, I guess I will probably leave out the Iceberg! lol I had my doubts about that one. I have also bought ramblin red, and william baffin which I will stick to. I was trying to find a pure white rose, a climber, to go with the red and pink of the other two. I don't really care if they are fragrant, as I can't smell very good anyway (sinuses always clogged up lol). I have a 6 ft high, 20 ft long trellis that I will be planting these on. Or do you think just the ramblin red will fill it in enough? I hear that both ramblin red and william baffin can get pretty long. Thanks, kentstar...See MoreWill Zephrine Drouhin Rose survive zone 5B
Comments (20)Sandy, we are surrounded by 75 foot pine, oak and maples. We had looked into solar since our house is perfectly oriented south but would have had to remove about 10-15 trees at $2500 a piece. Beyond our modest pocketbooks and worse it would leave no money for roses!! My shade gardens are mostly hydrangeas, especially an old lacecap that flowers in about 2 1/2 hours of early morning sun, Rhodis, astilbes, hostas, hostas, hostas, holly, a beautiful pink laurel bought this spring and other shade loving perennials. The sunniest areas are roses on top of roses(no three to four feet of space between) with fillers scattered throughout. My best roses for these areas are these DA's: Windermere, Queen of Sweden, Desdemona, Olivia, Heritage, Teasing Georgia, The Generous Gardener, Darcy Bussells, Boscabel and Gentle Hermione. Kordes include Summer Romance, Honeymoon, Cream and Lavender Veranda, Polar Express, Summer Memories and Zaide and a scattering of others including Julia Child, Knockouts and Bolero, which is far too tender here but I still love her. I have a Boscabel and Gentle Hermione in probably 4 hours of sun planted practically in sub soil and they're still putting out some buds even though they are extremely neglected so Austins tend to do well in not ideal conditions. It's definitely trial and error, seemingly more error than anything else but when you hit on the right rose that will flower in these conditions... heaven! Sharon...See MoreDevoniensis (grafted) from Palatine hardy to zone 5b? really?????
Comments (10)There are zone 5s and zone 5s. Since that number is only for average winter lows, it ignores things like summer highs and precipitation amounts. Köppen was among the first to create a climate map*, and it is still being used in modified forms 100 years later. If you look at that map, you will see that the eastern half of the US is described as the same climate type, divided in half by temperature. That is the fundamental assumption behind the USDA maps - that within a climate type the variables track fairly well so only one is needed to provide valid information. I have seen versions of this map where the eastern half of the US was divided into an eastern, maritime influenced climate and a midwestern, more continental climate. This seems to be an important distinction for many types of roses. The difference being that the east gets more rainfall, and has comparatively cooler summers. Since many roses apparently dislike both of those characteristics, they will perform better in a midwestern zone 5 than an eastern one. At one point, I decided that you essentially gained at least half a zone between eastern New York, and Michigan, for example. Then you picked up another half zone between Michigan and Montana. This is all a very long way of saying that Yes, I do believe there exist zone 5bs where you could overwinter a grafted Devoniensis, and get some flowers from it. However, I wouldn't expect that to be anywhere remotely near here. *the last time I searched for online versions of this, I could not find any that were legible. Sites that had been using it as a working tool had switched over to various bio-diversity maps. It seems to have reemerged as an historic artifact....See Morezone 5B climbing roses
Comments (15)El, of the three in your comment above, they are all easy to grow. Wm. Baffin has been at the end of my house for 20 years and I have done absolutely nothing for him, yet he is faithful with a big flush every spring and continues with a few blooms through summer. He's in almost complete shade. The blooms are nondescript. My John Cabot borders on red and has a fantastic spring bloom, then has blooms all season. Totally trouble free like W Baffin. Zepherine has a semi double bloom in a beautiful shade of pink, plus, no thorns, plus a strong fragrance. You can't go wrong with these, but I think JCabot and ZDrouhin are the prettiest. Are you familiar with Help Me Find? https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.2572&tab=1 You can look each of these up and see photos of how they're grown in gardens around the world. You did put your zone in your comment. Sorry, I was being daft. Straw, I had no idea James Galway would climb here. I love those blooms....See Morelovemycorgi z5b SE michigan
3 years ago
rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a)
3 years agoI thought of this thread when I saw our MJC in bloom this week. It isnt in the best location but I am glad we have it even so.
lovemycorgi z5b SE michigan thanked rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a)rouge21_gw (CDN Z5b/6a)
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoI have a love hate relationship with Paul Farges "Summer Snow".
About 10 years ago I had a SS on this brick wall next to the neighbours house and their side walkway. It doesn't get optimal light here and yet it still overwhelms. I didn't like cleaning it up in the spring as it was hard to extricate the foliage from the support wires on the wall and I would inevitably pull down these wires. So at some point I shovel pruned it. Later the neighbour made some comment of missing it ;). So I bought another and here is the replacement 4 years later as of today:
It is about 7 feet tall and about 15 feet wide (even after trimming back those sections which fall off the wall and grow over the plants in front of it). I do nothing to encourage it. If it got more sun there would be more flowersIf you have a LOTS of room in a sun location this can be an impressive ("scary"?) clematis
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Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b
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