Devoniensis (grafted) from Palatine hardy to zone 5b? really?????
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Can I manage a zone 6 or 5b rose in zone 5?
Comments (29)Dcrosby, You may be right at the edge of zone 5/6. Check the map here. If you are still zone 5, you just need to do some winter protection. It should be fine. Climate affects disease susceptibility. In dryer, more arid climate like AZ or CA, they don't have to deal with fungal disease like we do here in humid East Coast. When you read people's recommendations, you want to see where they live. Different climate gives different results to the same rose variety. Spraying for roses every week or every two weeks is not my kind of fun (anymore). I didn't even want to smell the blooms after I sprayed the bushes. Now I don't spray, most of my roses esp. Austins look naked by mid summer. Here is a link that might be useful: MA new plant hardiness zone map...See MoreAny hardy climbers from Palatine?
Comments (15)All of the roses mentioned will suffer some winter dieback in your growing area and many will require severe pruning. New Dawn does well for me but still requires tip pruning. illinijt's problem with it is the graft died and it reverted to the root stock, not the rose's fault. Mine is a four year old own root. It's recycled four time this summer and has had some blooms on it all the time. I keep it cut back to a reasonable size by choice but it still requires some pruning each spring to remove a little dieback. E-mail me for info about Quadra. I have a number of rooted cuttings. Mine is five years old and has bloomed well for the last two. Before that it bloomed only in the spring followed by a few sporadic blooms throughout the summer. What's your problem with doing a little tip pruning. You'll have to move to a warmer growing zone to avoid doing any of it. I really like Dublin Bay but it dies back to a couple of feet. Quadra likes to bloom in large clusters. Dublin Bay will too but often blooms singley. To me the blooms stand out better than Quadra. All my climbers are listed as hardy, but hardy may mean it survives, not necessarily the entire bush stays viable. That's just a problem with climbers in cold winter zones like ours. I like Viking Queen, Clair Matin, Compassion, Berlin, Fourth of July, and Autumn Sunset but they'ed not qualify under your criteria of green to the tips. They all will have to be pruned back to about two feet depending on the severity of the winter....See MoreNeed some zone 5b info on these roses
Comments (4)I have or have grown all the ones on your list, and by far the easiest and most rewarding one is Earth Song. It's trouble free, disease resistant, blooms all summer, and has at least some surviving cane most winters. The blooms are loosely double hot pink and it can make an impressive mound at about 5' by 4' if happy. All of the "Peace" varieties are variably tender for me even in a protected area, so I'm impressed that Dingo has overwintered two Pink Peace plants. At least 3 tries each for Pink Peace and Peace have failed, and Chicago Peace seems to be failing its second try. Same for Colorific - three tries in protected areas and it doesn't survive well. Star of the Nile died after two tries, and Gentle Giant only once, but it was in my protected spot. Among the "Easy" series, Livin' Easy is a better hardy rose than Easy Does it that can be variably hardy. Livin Easy puts out orange loosely double blooms and tops out a little over knee height for me, probably more if it had surviving cane. It's relatively trouble free. Dick Clark and Dream Come True are fabulous blooms of more traditional "rose" looking hybrid tea blossoms, both with dark pink edges on the blooms. I love the zowie pow high contrast of Dream Come True especially, and it's about 4-5' tall in a very narrow bush, and blooms a couple of spectacular blooms a year. Not exactly bushy, but a nice accent. It only survives in my protected zone 6 spot though, so it's probably marginally hardy in a regular zone 5 spot. Dick Clark is in a regular zone 5 spot and is about 6 years old, but barely knee high. He puts out a few blooms a year and has come back every year, but I'm sure he'd be taller and a better bloomer in a warmer spot. Winnepeg Parks is a Canadian rose and should have no trouble with your winters and it would like Colorado. It isn't a very prolific rebloomer, and the one I planted last year in a less than ideal spot didn't come back. I suspect it will do fine in a normal spot. It has dark pink loose semidouble blooms, and it probably would take a couple of years before it bloomed much past the first spring flush. So my recommendation is Earth Song definitely, Winnepeg Parks probably but put it in a less prominent spot, Livin' Easy if you like orange, and Dick Clark and/or Dream Come True to push your zone limits a little and go for pizzazz. As you can tell from Dingo's response though, there's a lot of difference among zone 5 gardeners and you may need to see what does well for you by trial and error. Don't be afraid to experiment! Just be sure to bury the graft (the knobby bit where the canes start growing) at least 2 inches below the soil so that it protects the main growing part from the winter. Otherwise, the rose you want may die and you're left with the dark red rootstock "Dr. Huey" that's mostly a pain in the neck. Cynthia...See MoreZone 5b (Maine) Hardy Romantic Roses
Comments (29)I have a friend who has a "summer home" in the area of Kennebunkport - literally right on the beach. Once when I visited her there, I stopped off at Suzanne Verrier's nursery, which is not far away. Suzanne sold me a rose which she said was perfect for that coastsl Maine climate, so I brought it to my friend as a hostess gift. It is a climbing once bloomer (which in that areas short growing season meant it blooms all season). Suzanne Verrier (who had a lovely nursery, and has written several books about cold weather type roses) really went on and on about how good for that area this rose was. She had one growing, which was about 10 feet high and 6 feet wide, and truly lovely. The bad news is that I have no record of the name of that rose (it is not growing in my garden), except I think it was two words, both starting with a B, I think. I looked and I found a fuzzy pic my friend sent me of it as a baby in its first season, which is in the "Comment" below. Perhaps someone on here will recognize it. Jackie...See Morekatyajini
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