Parade Day Rose. Disease Resistant?

Darragh Worledge

3 years ago

Has anyone grown Parade Day? How is it's disease resistance? Especially for black spot? Thanks.

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mmmm12COzone5
3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago
While we wait for someone who grows it in black spot country to chime in, I will tell you my thoughts on Parade Day.

I bought it as an after thought. But it turned out to be a favorite in the garden. I find the blooms super pretty and they go well in my arrangements since the compliment the other flowers.
Planted it May 2019 as a band from High Country Roses. The picture below is Oct. 2019.

It came back from the Denver winter nicely. There are 21 buds waiting to flush. Two of them have been eaten by something. I don't know enough about roses to know what chomped them. One looks like something ate the top off and the other looks like pictures I've seen of thrip damage (small dark holes in the bud). We've had cooler and some wet weather so that will probably go away in the heat of summer (fingers crossed).
rosecanadian
3 years ago
mmmmm - oh man!!! I want mine to be like that! Hopefully it will do better this year. Nothing against the rose itself...last year was just terrible for my roses. Your pictures are sublime!!! Mmmmm!!! :)
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Hi Msgirl: I love your honesty .. I looked up El Catala on HMF, and I broke out laughing when I saw 3' in height .. translate to a slow & wimpy rose. Heirloom Roses is notorious for small root & slow start. Now they raise the price to $27 per band !! If the root is big & solid, then it flowers sooner (roses from Weeks & star are grafted on Dr. Huey, see below). http://scvrs.homestead.com/Rootstock.html I got roses from Heirloom Roses as own-roots and their roots were like alfalfa-sprout, instead of big & long & woody like Dr. Huey. High Country Roses in Colorado sells BIGGER own-roots at $14 per band (they ship to Hawaii). I got Austin roses from them with blooms on !! About Dr. Huey rootstock: They are native to alkaline region, thus most healthy in alkaline clay. Dr. Huey itself tends to mildew, so high potassium helps. If your soil is acidic, then raise the pH with lime to above neutral. Lime will supply calcium besides raising soil pH. Decades ago my neighbor bought a bunch of grafted-roses-on-Dr.Huey, he planted in our rock-hard clay at 7.7, and they were blooming like mad & zero diseases. I was jealous since I had just moved from an ACIDIC clay region, and gave up on roses due to black spots. Since Dr. Huey is a woody-root, calcium should be supplied at 1/2 of potassium. Calcium is what makes plant tissue firm, thus more resistant to pests like thrips, mites, and aphids. When nitrogen is supplied via chemical, the quick burst of growth makes plant tissue softer, more susceptible to pests. I have been growing tomato for 30 years, and the only 2 years with big-fat tomato worms, plus blossom-end-rot were the years I used chemical fertilizer 10-10-10. Other years with ORGANIC slow-released nitrogen like manure, cocoa mulch, alfalfa .. no worms, no blossom-end-rot, since those ORGANIC sources supply low-nitrogen, decent potassium & calcium & trace elements.
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Thank you, everyone. I don't THINK it's Sweet Fragrance, though a few of the photos at HMF are similar to what I've seen. HMF is describing "strong/sweet fragrance"; this is light (I did say fruity). I haven't seen it "age to salmon pink" at any time. When I went back Yesterday, the older blooms were cream w/light yellow centers (like all the blooms when I first saw it: at THAT time, they did all seem to be new blooms), and the newest blooms looked like my first 2 pics. Ping's site says it's a HT: this is (for me) a floribunda. He does say "apricot orange to peachy salmon". Also don't think it's Morning Magic. I, too, had wondered if this mystery rose was from the same KO breeder. MM, at HMF, looks "less full", with fewer petals, and more pink than what I've seen. I'll go back tomorrow to count petals. HMF says "4-8 petals" for MM. I have a Peach Drift in the yard. Planted this summer - 1 "gallon" OR. I know it can get tall; 1 cane is already 30 inches high. It's surrounded by 3 Kordes all-stars, and is my best performer by far, by virtue of its prodigious flower production. In an untreated midge minefield. PD's blooms are smaller, with virtually no fragrance. Also, many more blooms per cluster than on the mystery rose, which is more upright/narrow. I'll welcome any additional thoughts.
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sharon2079
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I live in South Florida zone 10.... lots of black spot. Last year I lost several roses... maybe 8 to 12 HT's... I thought for sure Parade Day was gone too.... I am NOT sure what killed my roses.... they died from the bottom up (kind of) the new growth wilted at the tops.... but the roses turned black in the middle and died going up the cane.... I tried cutting off the cane under the black part... but then the graphs started to turn black and then they were gone.

Parade Day was down to one cane.... and then she caught BS... she was a one cane leafless wonder.... but slowly she made her way back. She is growing quite well now.... I do spray for bs... and even so some of my roses still get it.... but not Parade Day....

A few weeks ago I had a new basal cane and wouldn't you know the gardeners hit it with the law mower and broke it completely off.... I was so mad.... I thought it would set it back but I notice I have two more basal canes... the poor thing REALLY wants to live... I think it will make it if I don't have the unusual black cane wilt problem from last year....

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