Why not put pullout drawers in upper shelves of pantry?
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Pantry Cupboard or Closet? Drawers or Pullouts? Elevations posted
Comments (4)Mominator, I'm posting the link to your elevations below so that it doesn't have to be cut and pasted. We have a 36" pantry cupboard with drawers on the bottom and pull out shelves and fixed shelves on top. We also have a 24" cabinet we use as a baking cabinet with a center drawer and pull outs on the bottom and pull outs and fixed shelves on the top. I like them equally well. I keep a couple of small appliances on the bottom roll out of the baking cabinet. I like having appliances on roll outs instead of drawers because there is more room around the appliance for grabbing (instead of snaking my entire hand and lower arm down between the appliance and drawer side I can just snake my fingers between the shallow side of the roll out and the appliance.) I feel the same way about stock pots. I like the drawers in our pantry for holding items that don't stay put on shelves very well. The bottom drawer holds boxes and bags of pasta and overflow items. The middle drawer holds bagged items--snacks, cereals, loose granola bars, etc. The shallow top drawer has silverware (the pantry is next to our table.) The advantage of roll outs over drawers is that they are adjustable in height. You can figure out the storage in your kitchen and then adjust the roll outs so that they just clear the items below. You might find that you can squeeze in an extra shelf if you need the extra storage. Drawers are fixed in height. I've found it tricky to match items to drawer height--I often find I'm wasting vertical space because the drawers are too deep or I'm not able to store something in the area I want to because it's too big for a drawer. On the other hand, I do like having deep drawers in our pantry for corralling the items that don't sit on shelves well. Since the items are lightweight, they can be piled on top of each other and I can completely fill the deep drawer without feeling like I'm losing valuable space. As far as 2 motions required for using pull out shelves, I found I keep my most used items in the front (much like I used to when I had items on a fixed shelf). Usually I just have to open one door and grab. I only have to roll out the shelves once in a while when I'm hunting for lesser used items (i.e. grabbing a new jar of pickles, jam, or salad dressing for the fridge.) I'll caution you about your 2nd and 3rd drawings. Unless you have an island or peninsula near the fridge that isn't shown in the drawings, you're not leaving yourself much landing room for items from the fridge. Here is a link that might be useful: Mominator's Elevations...See MorePull-Out Drawers
Comments (9)I didn't get roll out tray shelves (ROTS) in my upper pantry for the kinds of reasons Swentastic gave. My cabinets go up to within a couple of inches of the 9' ceiling, so the top shelf is close to 8' high. I usually use a 6' painter's ladder to get up to the top couple of shelves, though I can stand on my toes and get a finger on what's in the very front of the second to top. My pantry is only 18" deep and I've often wished for ROTS. Reaching the back, especially of the topmost shelf, is a contortionist move. Half of it has a couple of bankers' boxes with party paper goods in them, because they're easy to get out and put back, and I think the other half also has large things. If you get them, do get the kind that's low in the front and tapers up the sides to a higher back. That helps prevent the topple behind, but makes it easier to see and reach into it. If the topple happens, there is still some contortion to be done, but I have a claw, which was a party favor, that works great for that kind of thing. It's smaller than the kind they make for disabled people, so better suited to tight spaces, and easier to operate if you don't have hand infirmities. I'd rather the unlikely event type of have to half crawl into the cupboard than the have to do it every time variety. (Re "clean it all up" don't put flour, sugar or any powdery thing, syrupy stuff in loose topped bottles, or any kind of tall breakable containers, where they're likely to fall over and make a mess!) OTOH, I don't think I'd want it on the shelf that's just above my head because I can get the things from the front easily without a stool or ladder. (And that's where I keep things like wraps with the short side front, so there's not so much in the back. And it might be awkward on the shoulder height shelf from having to reach over it. So maybe the best is to just put ROTS on the shelves you have to climb to reach anyway....See MorePull-Out Pantry Doors vs Roll-Out Shelves
Comments (4)I agree with you- I think pullout shelves are better. Though, unfortunately I can't tell you from personal experience, as my carpenter is telling me that they will be delivered tomorrow morning first thing- (if I had a dime for every time he's promised delivery- been waiting since February!) Anyhow, I do have the pantry pullout on one side of my floor to ceiling cupboards (have 18" cabinets on either side of fridge). I had to get that as I wanted space to hang brooms, mops, vacuum attachments, etc, and I could get a side mount pullout attached to one side, leaving room on the other side. The problem is access, even though it is full extension, you have the shelf above hampering your reach. I guess it's not a problem if you have lots of space between shelves, but then what's the point in that? My pullout shelves will be about 4" deep, with a half circle cutout in front- if they do arrive tomorrow, I can take pics- I am SO looking forward to having them installed- been using 16" deep shelves in a 24" deep cupboard, pain in the butt to reach to the back to access items. As you can see, shelves made just a little too wide!!!...See MoreBig pantry/smaller pull-out pantry distances
Comments (1)It really depends on how you work and whether you have room in the main working part of the kitchen for some of your food items. I had a kitchen with a pantry across a wide aisle from the kitchen itself. There was little cabinetry in the kitchen itself -- more dish storage and such across from the breakfast nook so everything, including a little of this spice or that had to come from the pantry. And it was about 7 or 8 feet deep with narrow shelves on one side. I loved the kitchen when we bought the house and couldn't stand to work in it by the time we left. My corner pantry in this house was an improvement in location, but not organization. I changed it to pantry cabinets with rollouts and a pullout that are actually a bit further form my main work areas (a few steps), but I also use some of the space in my main work area for flour, sugar and other baking supplies in deep drawers, my spices in a top shallow drawer and oils, vinegars and such right at hand above. I don't have to make as many trips to the pantry as I did before and it's not as far. For me, this is working out best of all. I can see either of your design choices working out well, but you need to thing about the type of cooking you do, how you work and how you would use the space -- what you would store in each cabinet and drawer. It's a pain to break everything down that much, but it's necessary to see how it all works for you....See MorePatricia Colwell Consulting
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