Were these bare root bagged roses? Do you have the original tag with picture? I have been able to ID some through the weeks site from the pictures.

Thanks for your comments. Seil, I had to laugh at your observation about roses being red and yellow! If we are lucky. Vaporvac, these are roses 'planted' in one gallon pots. I'll see if I can unearth the pictures.

Here is a photo of the notorious Northern Scarlet and Northern Sun roses. What are they?

I searched through both the Weeks and Star catalogues, but couldn't find a similar picture, although there were a couple of contenders. I've definitely seen the one on the right. I hope someone recognizes it. T

The yellow rose on right looks familiar to me too, Vaporvac. But these are supposed to be super hardy 'Northern' roses. That limits choices.

The yellow rose on the right looks somewhat like Morden Sunrise, a superhardy Canadian rose sold extensively in the US, but the blooms in the photos lack the light pink tinge this rose gets on its outer part of its petals. Still, who knows for sure with nothing but a photo to go on. Diane

I had thought that as well, Diane, but didn't see the orange tinge in the pics. So last night/early morning I did some sleuthing and found this company, Windmill, is out of Canada and is a part of PanAmerican Nurseries. Looking through their catalogue, I suspect they are the source for many roses sold at both Palatine and Hortico. They sell the roses you bought in two sizes. I looked through their catalogue with no luck finding these exact roses, but suspect they are one of the various Canadian offerings from AgCanada. Calling would be the only way to truly ID them, but I presume they are off-patent or there is some reason they don't use the true name. This is the company. https://panamnursery.com

Click for the PDF Pan American Catalogue. The hardy roses start on page 26 and the reference to yours are on page 54/55 listed as Showpot and Showtainers. Looking through these pics again, I wonder if the red one might not beEmily Carr, (p.28) one of the Canadian Artist Series, although it is listed for Z3 and yours is Z4. Morden Sunrise (p. 30) is also listed as Z3. Perhaps that info could help find yours. Of course you could always solve the mystery by just calling! LOL! : -D

P.S. I think yours are the #1 grade 3 litre Showpots.

Vapor, you are the premier rose detective, not to mention the investigator of houzz weirdness. Thank you. Diane

Hi Vaporvac. You are indeed an intrepid rose sleuth! I grow Emily Carr. It would be quite a stretch to call her Northern Scarlet. She is a deep red without orange tones. Also the leaves are much larger than this mystery Northern Scarlet even in small roses. I am having trouble with anyone labeling Morden Sunrise as Northern Sun. There is a superficial resemblance but if the picture is accurate (who knows) the Northern Sun flower is fuller of petal and without the peach overlay. Again I've seen many Morden Sunrise roses though I don't grow that variety. I'll check out the Pan American catalogue. Thank you very much for the link.

Okay I checked out the catalogue. Those are all named hardy roses, with which I am familiar. I like growing these roses because they come own root and are generally disease resistant. Again, I can't see any reason for a company to label a known rose as in the catalogue as anything but what it is. Patents are expired on these roses. You do find them sold under their proper names. I also bought Captain Samuel Holland at the same time and for the same price, in the same packaging as the mystery roses. So if that one was named, then if there was a name, the other roses should be named. Instead they are called as above Northern Scarlet and Northern Sun. They had Hope For Humanity in this group, also a correct name. As well as some other Canadian Explorer roses. Iceberg was there and named by it's correct name. Truly it seems these roses are something else, rather than a disguised known rose. I was hoping someone had heard of Northern Scarlet etc, and could say "Oh yeah! That's ( fill in the blank) sometimes called Northern Scarlet."