What we will tell our Grandchildren about surviving COVID-19
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Wondering if Covid-19 will stop any military conflicts?
Comments (8)I'm the OP of this thread, which was posted almost a week ago. I just saw this article, which I guess answers my thread headline question. It appears that no current American presence in active conflicts overseas, are being curtailed, but rather that military troops will be taking the best measures they can, to avoid becoming exposed to the Covid-19. My opening paragraph for this thread, referenced how the ongoing fighting in World War I, allowed the Spanish Flu to spread among the soldiers, who lived and fought in close quarters, for 10 months, before the war finally ended. Then the soldiers who had been exposed, but didn't die, returned home, unknowingly spreading the virus further, throughout America. So in learning that American military personnel in conflicts abroad, will remain on active duty there, I give my sincere hope that all of those men and women who may be fighting two battles at the same time, one visually apparent and the other invisible, will return home eventually, safe and healthy. My heart goes out to them all, especially the 13,000 troops serving in Afghanistan, as it is shares a border with Iran, where Covid-19 is so prevalent. Please know that if your family members are in service overseas, they are not forgotten. https://thehill.com/policy/defense/487700-pentagon-confronts-coronavirus-as-global-conflicts-rage...See MoreFlattening the Curve. Covid 19 Virus Tips.
Comments (67)Fori, you are so right about wearing a bandana or whatever in front of your mouth. To update: Some good news or not, depending on what this will do to the way we look. This video, by the same group, shows how a simple washcloth in front of the speaker's mouth basically contains pretty much all the droplets (> 99%) that are normally emitted when talking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OSz5Gr7gG0&feature=youtu.be...See MoreAre you satisfied with how your state is managing Covid-19 response?
Comments (48)As someone who deals with facts on a daily basis in addition to the skill of evaluating the validity of research data (I teach science), the idea that data and facts cannot be objectively verified I find puzzling. As I mentioned, we use facts all the time to make decisions, for example, we check the weather before going somewhere to determine how to dress. Weather predictions are made based on facts, measurements and data. But, since weather is a system that is highly variable (many data points and facts affect the system) there is always going to be some level of uncertainty in your predictions. Meteorologists factor that into their weather reports, and usually give a range of predictions, such as 20% chance of rain. That is not zero, btw, so I always carry a collapsible umbrella in my car. But we don't assume that a meteorologist has some hidden political agenda, nor do we necessarily question the need for weather forecasting, particularly those of us in outdoor professions who depend on reliable weather data to make critical decisions. I have no reason to doubt that the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, one of the most respected and admired research centers in the world, would not be working diligently to present the best and most valid data available. Also, since science thrives on constant questioning and examination, they would not rest until more and more "truth" could be determined. I know science constantly refines ideas, I'm comfortable with evolving advice based on the results of more and more information being investigated and newer data coming in. That's why medical advice evolves over time and what was once standard advice, (like taking vit. E protects against heart disease, for example, which has evolved to it being a minor preventative factor if at all, not trumping genetics, and having no benefit in clinical studies as a treatment, in fact in might be a detriment and is no longer supported by the American Heart Association). I not only have confidence in the public health researchers at the University of Michigan and my alma mater Michigan State, for example, I feel blessed beyond compare that I live in a state where such institutions can exist and thrive. I feel the same way about the Johns Hopkins Center, their web site is a marvel of useful and helpful information. As well as the many professional groups I belong to that share "truths" amongst members so we can develop strategies to meet all kinds of situations arising out of real data coming out of the real world. For example, the spotted lanternfly is similar to this covid-19 virus in that it has the potential to decimate dozens of economic fruit crops. No one is questioning the validity or political agendas of folks reporting on its spread, nor on ideas for mitigation and control. That's the irony to me, I live in a state known for having more colleges than just about any other state, (we are number 9 for number of colleges) and yet folks want to refuse the good advice one can find here for FREE! Folks from all over the world come here to convene with some of the best brains on the planet! When it was just "their loss" I was fine with it. Now, when it is my own close family at risk and myself, not satisfied! I have also noted, that in my rural area, there is a movement to not only flaunt social distancing recommendations and rules, but also other laws regarding social conduct. For example, two weekends ago a gang of three wheelers rode up and down the streets in my neighborhood for quite a while, knowing full well that ORVs are not allowed on public roads. It was totally annoying because we were outside trying to enjoy the beauty and peace of our yard. It's happening on a regular basis now, folks going out and engaging in socially disruptive behavior, I guess either hoping to draw folks into conflicts or hoping no one will come out to stop them from the local neighborhood. My friend's husband is a policeman, and this is totally adding to their stress unnecessarily since they are not only having to police serious crimes, but respond to the health crisis as well. So they do not need to deal with things like folks setting off firecrackers, etc.which are totally avoidable. Regarding the three wheelers, eventually they got bored and moved on, but such things are happening on a regular basis in my neighborhood, gangs of trucks and motorcyclists driving around revving their motors, etc. And I'm not talking about groups gathering for socially distancing parties, which we had up the street from us. That was very clear what was going on as the cars all had "Happy Birthday" balloons decorating them. There are several cases of church communities being ravaged by the virus here in MI and some folks have lost MULTIPLE family members. We stopped going to church before it was cancelled, and we intend to keep on participating virtually. The biggest issue for me is how to continue to support local feeding efforts which our church was heavily involved in as volunteers. I am having to remind myself to regularly donate to the food pantry now online with money instead of food, and also not forget to regularly tithe at church....See MoreMemorial Service during COVID-19
Comments (21)Greetings gardener123 ... who may be uncertain about rows 4, 5 and 6 ... but knows for sure that wewantsophie, I am unsure, given your concern of reality coming at you like a freight train, as to whether you are somewhat expecting that your patriarch's continuing life in this dimension may be coming to an end. That is a very difficult issue that in the ordinary course of living we don't like to contemplate: including this character who, in reasonably good health, is (slightly) closer to 100 than to 80! Then you speak of should your worst fears being realized and proceed to consider post-death planning, which leads me to think that you are considering your worst fears to be his death. May I offer an alternative suggestion? Some aged people, having undergone a very serious illness and having pulled through, are left so seriously disabled that they consider their continuing life to be of very little value, with little prospect of improvement. In this current covid situation, which is especially hard on old people whose auto-immune systems are low, many have been left with serious lung issues on a continuing basis, making breathing extremely difficult. I think that some people left seriously disabled may consider that situation worse than death. Unaware as I am of your loved one's prospects should he survive, I am reluctant to offer the message above and hope earnestly that it does not give you more fear, uncertainty and pain. How pleased and thankful you must be to see the many tributes offered by so many people who felt blessed by his kindness. What a fine example he has offered to not only you, his loved ones, but to the community in which he lived, and we are in great need of such examples in these troublous times. Some have referred to faith connections but I do not find such a reference in your message. While you may not wish to consult funeral practitioners about the size of groups and other circumstances related to death, if you have connections to a faith group, if you consult those leaders, I'm sure that they will be able to offer such information. As has been said, likely there will be severely restricted numbers allowed at a funeral gathering these days so, especially considering his having touched the lives of so many in such a positive manner, that a celebration of his life at a later time, possibly on an anniversary, might please many. Thank you for sharing your current pain with us. I hope that you find a measure of satisfaction, community spirit and peace of heart from having done so. I offer prayers on behalf of all of you at this stressful time and send my good wishes to you. In our area, news this morning was that 20% of our covid sufferers are inmates and staff of seniors' long term care facilities and 80% of deaths are seniors. ole joyful...See More- 6 years ago
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