I'm going to try to make goat cheese for the first time today
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Comments (16)Yes, but Boers were originally developed in a country that relied on the ancient child labor/goat herd system. The animals were loose but supervised in wide open spaces all day, rather than confined within a fenced area with plenty of room to spread out, and for lower ranking animals to escape their tormentors. From what I've seen, I'd say it's only lately, with the rise of popularity that meat goats have with the show crowd (slowly but surely displacing that fragile, fussed over animal formally known as the "Show Sheep") that disbudded/dehorned wethers are becoming the rule at shows. Originally, all classes of Boers had to have horns; they could be tipped, but the horns were scored as part of it's breed character; breeders wanted the animal to be as close as possible to the ones that originally came from South Africa. But over the years, that attitude has relaxed as people realize that horned animals present some unique management issues without any equitable benefits, especially when you are talking about a relatively inexperienced Junior keeping one or two wethers. If you've ever seen an animal with an eye nearly gouged out from the careless toss of a (horned) head, or worse, seen a once beautiful milker selling for meat prices because half her udder has been permanently damaged from one of her horned herd mates jostling for position, (horned goats don't only posture and tip their heads, they will also reach up under another animal and lift it from behind), you would understand exactly why serious dairy goat herds want only hornless animals. If someone has disbudded a kid that is still vocalizing, examine the burn ring again; it should be dry and copper colored. If it appears "wet" around the edges, you'll need to go back and lightly re burn that area, as the tissue has not been sufficiently cauterized. If you see any part of a white ring, give it a baby aspirin, or call a Vet for some banamine, as you have probably applied too much pressure and burned through the skin to the skull. But done properly, disbudding takes less than 30 seconds, and the kid shows no discomfort afterwards. What it boils down to is that different people have different management styles. For example, I would not use an animal's horns as a handle anymore than I would twist it's tail to get it to start walking. I prefer to either train it to walk beside me with a hand under the jaw to guide it, or to follow behind me. I like knowing that my young nieces (like all three of my now grown daughters and their friends before them) are safe around our animals, and I especially like the overall calming effect that a lack of horns has on our animals. But that's just me, naturally, YMMV....See MoreGoing to try this - tell me if I'm totally wrong please
Comments (13)Amna, I use those strawberry containers all the time, been doing so for 6 years now and never had a problem with them. Holes are fine, as well and my containers always go in in direct sun as well. Soil goes in, miracle grow, I don't fill it quite to the top, seeds go on soil. sprinkle some soil on top and press down to be sure it is good and moist. snap the cover down and out it goes. no tape no, baggies unless the containers are reused and the cover has finally broken off. As temps warm up I sometimes need to add vent holes to the top to get more water in. Covers come off the seedlings when the seedlings are really hitting the cover of the container. I have never worried about not enough head room with covers or with baggies on them and have never had a problem or any seedlings damaged from being a bit compressed with a cover or baggie. My hose is out back near the containers, so if they need some moisture, water is handy when needed. I am in MA as well, near the Nashua NH border and I don't sow my cosmos till mid April. to huge a risk of late frosts around MA that will get the tender seedlings. Cosmos are really hardy with early frost in the fall and will continue to bloom through those early frosts, but the tender seedlings will be history for you if they are zapped by late frost now. Picture 1 should be fine outside without the baggie. just be sure there are vent holes on the top. Don't leave the container inside the other one on the bottom. That will catch rain and could make the soil stay far too moist and soggy because the container will just sit in water. pic #2. looks fine. just be sure there are drainage holes in the bottom of the container and you have slits in the baggie for air to circulate and rain to get in. (hopefully we have seen the last of snow, sleet, freezing rain and ice for this year) Pic #3. looks like you used masking tape for labels. That won't last very long. it will come off when it gets wet from rain. You can cut up plastic covers from margarine, cottage cheese, sour cream, coffee, etc and use them for labels. you can use a deco paint pen to write with, that will last forever and put the tags inside the container. or use sliver foil tape as a label and write with paint pen. sharpies fade quickly when the heat and sun get on it. Be sure the containers have drainage holes in them, air holes in the top and when you put them outside, don't pile them on top of each other. Each one needs to have it's cover exposed to the elements completely. Some pics of my containers I have been using for 6 years A mix of those blue containers mushrooms come in, strawberry containers, take out containers, cottage cheese containers. I use anything that is at least 3-4 inches deep, but do not use gallon water jugs. I just find them far too awkward to use and I don't use tonic bottles either. We rarely drink any and the bottle return leaves no one with any to get them from. Fran...See Moregoat cheese
Comments (19)My first kid was born two days ago. Yesterday, a more experienced goatherd friend of mine came over and looked at her and the doe. He suggested milking the doe out, as the kid wasn't taking anywhere near her capacity. So I've got a pint of colostrum in the fridge, which I need to strain, pour into ice cube trays, and freeze. That way if I have an orphaned lamb or kid next year... Breezy may not get it, but I understood exactly what was being said. This is my first kid, and my goat's first kid too. The goat was my now ex-wife's idea. Yes, I've grabbed a goat tit before and tried to get milk out of it, and I've been shown the proper technique, but that doesn't mean I really know how to do it. What Rob showed me was that new goats will not accept a human milking them right off. The first few milkings are going to be troublesome. Don't get mad when she tries to use her back foot to push your hands away. Don't get mad if she dumps the milk. She's going to learn that it isn't so bad, and she'll get used to it. He said that one of his kicked with both back feet, and he caught her feet in the air and held them for a moment. She calmed right down. You can feed that first milk (probably contaminated with whatever's on her foot) to the dog, pigs, cats, whatever. Just don't plan on having it for yourself until she's trained to milk. I have a milking stand, but since my goat is out with the sheep on rotating pasture, it wasn't handy. We milked her in the shelter, which is stock pannel arches covered with carpet. Eventually I realized I could just attach her collar to the stock pannel, and keep her back end between me and the wall. Yes, this means I'm bent down to milk. We'll see how that goes. I may bring out the milking stand but still clip her collar to the wall. For the first milking, it was good to have two people there. It looks like the easiest way to do this is going to be to bring a few wide mouth quart mason jars out and milk directly into them, as they have tight lids and all. I'll also have to figure out an easy way to bring out some warm, ever so slightly soapy water and a cloth to clean her with before milking. For cheese, I really want to learn to make mozzarella. It's something my ex used to make, and it only takes about a half hour to make. It uses citric acid, salt, and maybe a flavoring culture. All the stuff is cheap and available through places like New England Cheesemakers Supply, by mail order. Dan...See MoreRoses today.... I'm trying again...
Comments (23)Thanks so much once again... you all have lovely gardens, including yours Trish, I've seen them.. but I know what it's like, sometimes I see a rose in another member's garden and think that I'd never grow it so well, so no point in me trying .. Lisa, yes my foxgloves self sow, but I also grow fresh for the following year.. I like to choose my colours... I was impressed that you knew the grass, I'm not sure I would have known that.. I like it as it does well in sun or shade... Carol... yes I got a bit of practice in there... thanks again......See More- 6 years ago
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