I have watched parts of the last episodes of The Bachelor. Assuming that what we see is real, Mom is right, Madison and Peter are a bad fit. She is deeply religious, he is, well, not at all, and pretty shallow, to boot. I doubt they will ever reach the point of getting married, let alone having children. But it is all theater, and Mom is playing her role.

Why didn't they like this girl?

I never interfered in the relationships of my kids except once. I liked the girlfriend but what I didn't like was the alcohol induced drama that she and my son engaged in when they were drinking. And I spoke up. They're not together anymore but whether or not my words broke them up I don't know.

bl, I didn't watch the season but the Mom said something about flying half the way across the world to Australia to meet her and she kept them waiting for 3 hours to meet her. Also, they didn't immediately gel I guess. And they loved the other girl, she was a good fit for the family.

Marilyn_c...... I agree, I got the same impression!

S/he wot sticks his/her hand into offspring's romantic relationships - shouldn't be surprised if/when it gets afflicted with major heat/burn.

o j

I watched last season when Peter was rejected by Hannah Brown. I'm sure Madison did too. For someone with her moral compass it made zero sense that she would choose to participate in the show, especially knowing the bachelor was Peter; he of 4 times in the windmill fame.

In the end it's a reality show and means absolutely nothing.

I watched the entire season. Peter's family met Madison during the second week of the season on a "one on one" date in which he took her to his parent's home as guest to their vow renewal ceremony. Everyone loved Madison, including mom. Madison is in many of the family photos from that day, but mom has probably photoshopped Madison out lol. Mom made is sound last night that this was their first time meeting Madison at the final two choices in Australia.

I do not think Peter and Madison are well suited for one another based on what I've seen. Certainly a lot is edited on the show. I also don't think he and Hannah are a good match, she's got her act together, he does not.

The parent's need to step out, be quiet and let Peter figure this out. Maybe his past relationship struggles were because of too much input from others. Mom's behavior last night was appalling, with the constant eye rolling, looks of disgust and her words. She has had plenty of time to process the situation, this was not a surprise to her. Thankfully Dad handled it bit better. Unfortunately Mom has made the final decision for her son.

Thanks for the info, Matti. As I said, I didn't watch it and had no idea about the vow renewal ceremony. That makes the Mom's actions even more questionable to me. I took an instant dislike to that overly dramatic woman, especially when she squealed and screeched when Peter told them he had chosen Hanna Ann. I couldn't help but think it was over the top and I would never act that way. Almost creepy, if you ask me.

I think Mom should lay off the wine. While I totally agree with her about the match, she's setting it up for Peter to choose between his wife (potentially) and mother. And Mom's always going to come out the loser in that battle.

What you view is not necessarily the truth, most likely twisted the truth for everyone's viewing pleasure. JMO

I agree Judy. I thought the whole business of Hanna Ann maybe not showing up for the final rose was a set up. This entire season was the worst Bachelor I’ve ever seen (but I am not an avid follower of every season). I’ll stick to Bachelor in Paradise as long as they continue to have people like John Paul Jones, lol.

The mother sealed the fate of Peter’s relationship...unless Madison's religious beliefs can overcome that. I’d run though if I were her.

I agree too, Judy. But when watching it, I kept thinking boy, would I hate to have a mother-in-law like that. Too involved. I respect Maddie's decision about sex, but all that on again, off again reminded me of the old book, Games People Play.

According to one of the morning shows, Peter and Maddie have broken up. Who would need a MIL like Barb! 😖

I didn't watch this season (actually, I've watched very few seasons, and not at all recently), but I read something earlier today (or was it late last night?) that said a recent Bachelorette (Rachael/Rachel) is convinced that Madison only went on the show to gain more Instagram followers and boost her career. After all, how could anyone even thinking about going on the show and knowing about the Fantasy Suites still agree to be on the show if her morals were as tight as Madison claimed hers are? Especially if you are going on in a season where the Bachelor has been on the show before - what an easy way to find out more about him! So, as was noted above, how could Madison NOT have known that Peter had sex with Hannah Brown four times during their night in the Fantasy Suite. She would have to have known that Peter would have sex with whomever he took to a Fantasy Suite. Also, apparently the minute the show aired, Madison's new agent posted on Instagram that folks should contact him for any deals with Madison.