American Standard vs. Kohler vs. Toto for low tank toilet
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Comments (17)Concerning Kohler quality, I have found (so far) that they seem to ship a lot of very flawed products, but are quite willing to replace them. I bought two Memoirs 2269 sinks and a Cimarron toilet and all were badly warped. The toilet tank lid had a banana shape - over 3/4 inch warp - and the sinks aren't even close to flat on the surface that meets the counter. If I shim up the back right corner so the front makes contact, I will have a gap to caulk of over 1/2 inch and the top will not even be close to parallel with the row of subway tiles behind the sink. Kohler customer service says they are sending me a return authorization for both sinks, but since they were a special order item I fear I may wait another 6 weeks for a replacement and then get another warped one. Doesn't anyone inspect these things before they're shipped? Gary...See Moreamerican standard vs kohler white
Comments (3)I purchased a white Kohler tub and a white American Standard toilet for my bathroom remodel. It didn't even dawn on me at the time that there could be 'different' whites until I put the toilet next to the tub. The more I stared at them, the more I noticed the difference in color, so I took the toilet back and purchased a Kohler. If you didn't already install the toilet, I would take it back, or if you already installed it, maybe you have another bathroom in the house that has an older toilet and you can put the AS one in that other bathroom? I know if I installed those two "different whites" in my bathroom, it would bother me every time I walked in. I also don't know if Kohler has multiple shades of white. I just looked at their website and clicked on a few different toilets and I only see one "white" choice....See MoreToilet Selection (Toto vs Kohler)
Comments (26)I guess my response is too late for the OP's information. However, I have replaced toilets in three houses. The first house had two BR's and the next two had three bathrooms. First house was our entry level house in the Los Angeles market; we installed two boring Kohlers that performed well and quietly and I never needed a plumber for anything. Our next move up house was a huge jump up in cost, it was almost double square footage but the premium in cost was mostly because it had an amazing ocean view and marina view and this even from the shower in the master bath. In this house we upgraded with Kohler's San Raphael in the master and guest bath and in the powder room, we splurged on the St. Martin (or San Martine?) an incredibly beautiful toilet with what we thought was a pretty high price tag of over $800, which was a lot for that time period (the early 90s) though not so much in these days of the $3000 "hatbox" toilet from Kohler. None of these toilets ever caused a problem, though our plumber who was the BEST, (JEFF of family-owned and run Argyll Plumbing, if you're reading this out there in Torrance CA. it is you to whom I refer as the BEST) warned us that we possibly could have problems with the high-end San Martine but these never developed, at least not while we still owned the home. Because of a precipitous move downward in the income and wealth index by a lot (thanks to very serious mistakes by physicians at the Jacksonville Fl. Mayo Clinic, mistakes that could and should have been caught and avoided, mistakes that served to end my husband's corporate and international business development career with its comfortable income and more important, true meaning in his life, while at the same time our savings got used up and our retirement funds were almost breathlessly depleted while we looked on, heads spinning, and as we are now, the proverbial unhappy campers, saddled with credit card debt run up in a few years time but that will take years if ever to pay off, and forced to be "re-educated" and to deal with new goals not of our making: like living on a fixed income that has little extra for not much of anything and maintaining a home that we'd rather not, since our goal at the time this all began had been to sell the house and return to the West Coast, our real home, but then this "merde" came our way and by God, did it ever hit the fan!) the Kohlers in our three bathrooms in our current home are more modest models, either the Kohler Highline or the pretty little Kohler Santa Rosa. These toilets got replaced a second time though because of the newly introduced comfort height toilet, this a great feature that hadn't been available in 1999 when we moved into the one-year-old home and immediately upgraded the cheapy contractor's grade toilets, and a feature that we would only come to fully appreciate later on (my husband has had both of his hips surgically replaced,plus one knee, so far) and now wouldn't give up for any reason. We are getting around to replacing the master bath's standard-height Santa Rosa and I've come to this dependable forum for help with our decision. Because decisions like this now take on amazing significance. So rather than replace a Santa Rosa with another Santa Rosa, even as pretty as they are, we are seriously considering the Kohler Persuade Curv. I love the look, its slender beauty and the ease of cleaning the look suggests. (I'm not getting any younger). But I hesitated and have for a while. It doesn't seem possible that Kohler could offer that great look (a smooth bowl that jumped forward into the 21st century, leaving behind the tired look that mimicked the pipes, the interior function) and do it at a price point that actually was possibly attainable by the majority of the toilet-needing masses, this from the company that shocked the world (well, I was shocked!) with the $3000 "hatbox" toilet. After many years of nothing but success with Kohler toilets now when we don't have the resources to reverse a bad decision, the wrong choice, after all I've read about the Persuade, I am stuck. Is going with the Kohler Persuade because of the beauty of the look, (and because I internet shopped and found a very very good price) while I bury my head in the sand as to any problems lurking down the road, problems I learned about also on the internet as I researched WHICH KOHLER TO BUY, is all this by definition telling me I'm in a new world here and to tread carefully with my few precious dollars?...See MoreKohler vs. Toto toilets
Comments (20)We've had our Totos (Dartmouth, Plymouth) for several years now and, while they were a huge improvement on the builder-grade Crane models they replaced, they're not perfect. But what is? We've had to unclog them several times but that doesn't begin to compare with the almost daily problems we had with our previous toilets. We've also had to replace the flappers - once on each toilet. No big deal - we just keep an extra flapper ($10) on hand now. The impression I have from reading CR and others over the years is that other companies have improved their products and, as a result, you can probably find any number of good toilets out there now. Personally though, if I had to buy another toilet today I'd stick with Toto because they always seem to be on the cutting edge of toilet technology and everyone else has to work to keep up....See MoreMary Elizabeth
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