Jades I just purchased on Facebook
They were $8 ea. and I hope they hold their variegation.
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Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
4 years agoRelated Discussions
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Comments (12)Thanks Caudex, for posting your zone info. While walking my dog this AM I noticed that the jade bush which I got my branch cutting from has flower buds (not opened yet) on it! This surprises me because this bush is in a lot of shade. Located on a small side yard slope with many very tall cyprus trees planted in front of it and a tall dark colored wood fence behind it. I literally have to peek between the cyprus looking for the bush and yet it has flowers. Further on my walk there is a full block of jade bushes in full sun. They took quite a beating during our 110 degree week recently. They have no flower buds and one branch has turned black and sort of charcoal like, dying off and crunchy. Other jades on my walk in full sun also have no buds yet. Interesting! The shaded jade never has red tips on it, truly is in a dark area with only peaks of light at certain times of the day. No buds on mine yet....See Morecultural issue with jade..old jade
Comments (6)I would give it a total makeover. In that I mean that I would bare root the thing, carefully so as not to damage too many roots, and give it a home in the gritty mix. Jades are a tough plant, usually only being vulnerable to root rot, and occasional mealy bugs, which can be a serious problem if left unchecked. Anyway, it won't be easy to do this kind of work on such a large plant, which is why I never buy anything that big. But, for $9, I don't know that I could have passed it up either. I don't know you, so I have to take your word that such a large plant costed only $9, and if you truly did, someone made a mistake or is a complete moron. I was at a nursury looking around, and they had several large jades. They had a 6 foot variegated one for $1500. The 2 to 3 footers themselves were around $100. Enough on that. As for how to approach such a job, well, it'd probably be easiest to make some contraption to gently snag on the trunk, and hang it from something. If you use rags or old cut up t-shirts to make straps, you can snug them up around the trunk below some thick branches. You'll need a few to keep the pressure off any one spot. You then strategically loop a rope through the straps, and hoist it up. Then you'll have to sit injun style and loosen up the roots, which can be tough when they intertwine. After removing ALL the peat soil and washing the roots, remove any that look rotted. Then lower into the new pot, one that is big enough to fit the root ball, with a couple inches to spare around the edge. Fill with gritty mix, making sure to get the soil in around all the roots. For support, you can use plastic spring loaded clamps, found at your local hardware store or big box store. Also get some romex cable, the type used for electrical wiring in houses. Romex cable is thick enough not to damage the tree when you wrap it around the trunk. It is a bundle of solid wires, so it bends good, and provides rigid support. Put 3 or 4 clamps on the pot rim, and use these to run your support cables to. Do this while to plant is still supported by the hanging contraption. Then, you need to figure out how you're going to move this monsterous heavy tree. Hold off on watering for a week after the repot to allow any damaged roots to heal. Again, this project is going to suck, and you'll be asking why in the tarnation you bought it. For a piece of mind, I've done this before, only with a 7 foot tall madagascar palm tree. I had to wrap it in fiberglass insulation to prevent breaking the huge thorns before making the custom noose. As for where to set your jade, well, if it was in shade, then start with that. Slowly acclimate it to the sunny spot where you intend to keep it. Good luck! Joe...See Moreand I just started looking at facebook
Comments (6)Schrems was surprised to discover, among the 1,222 pages of data covering three years of Facebook activity, not only deleted wall posts and messages, some with sensitive personal information, but e-mail addresses he'd deleted and names he'd removed from his friends list. Well of course it's still there. It off the page but still archived. that goes for almost anything and everything you post on the net. It's not a Facebook issue. It's part of the new age we live in. You can burn a letter or paper doc. You can't burn content off the internet. You can clean your own house but once it's out thee it is out there. I hope he has what it takes to be a better lawyer. He's not a very savvy IT guy. LOL...See MoreShould I prune my jade?
Comments (12)That's what I would do if it was my plant. Pruning the stretched growth and getting new leaves to grow. Here is something Al (tapla) posted about thickening the trunk: tapla Think of your trunk as a river and each branch as a stream, and each leaf as a brook, all tributaries of the river. Removing streams/brooks (branches/leaves) causes the river to flow (thicken) at a reduced rate. Plants can grow multiplicatively (more branches and leaves) or additively (thicker). Both types of growth occur in meristematic regions; extension and new meristems from apical meristems at branch tips and thickening from the lateral meristems in cambial tissues. Both elongation and thickening of axes is directly related to the number of cell divisions that occur. As cells divide, new cells are laid down in files and are causal of thickening. Since the number of new cells formed IS what determines the amount of thickening, and the number of new cells formed is directly related to food (photosynthate) production, we can say with certainty that there exists a direct relationship between the amount of thickening in the longitudinal axes and the area of the photosynthesizing surface (the number/size of leaves on the plant). From this we see that by removing branches that support viable foliage and/or removal of individual leaves, we reduce axial thickening in direct relation to the photosynthesizing surface area removed. So, as Rina and Rooftop suggested, removing leaves and branches can only have the direct effect of diminishing the rate of thickening in the longitudinal axes. Another post from Al: Hi, Andrey. When we remove branches we remove leaves, thereby reducing the plant's photosynthesizing surface and it's ability to create food from the sun's energy. Less food means fewer cell divisions, so not as many cells laid down in the cambium where thickening occurs. So, no question, removing foliage retards thickening of the trunk and branches. If you want more side branches, removing the plants apices (growing branch tips/ apical meristems) removes most of the source of auxin, the growth regulator responsible for suppressing lateral breaks (side branches). This allows cytokinin, the growth regulator that stimulates lateral breaks to become dominant, which stimulates axillary and adventitious buds to grow - so more branching. Also, maximizing light while ensuring good air movement and appropriate fertility causes more secondary growth. Al Here is whole thread those 2 post are in: -click here- Perhaps you may find interesting reading whole thread, few other questions are answered....See MoreStush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
4 years agoStush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
4 years agoHere's my other small jades;
One from Chris, one from Mike and one from another Chris. That last one is 3 years old.
tropicofcancer (6b SW-PA)
4 years agoNice Stush. My collection of succulents is small. Last year I acquired this:
Is it gollum or hobbit or does it matter?
Often I try to look for odd pots for succulents. Here is one jade (actually three plants) in a coconut that has been growing in that for several years now.
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jstropic (10a)
4 years agoStush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
4 years ago
Many thanks to Josh, So Hobbit is bigger than Gollum with Skinny Fingers the smallest.
I have a few larger Hobbit that is all green. When I purchased one, it was suppose to be variegata but turned out to be sun and temp stress and went away. My biggest fear on these new purchases. Time will tell.
rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoStush
I am not sure, but Skinny fingers is not necessarily smallest, just the leaves are very tubular. Look at photo tropic posted - leaves are quite long. I purchased original small plant in 2012; eventually took 2 cuttings and have grown few from leaves. Couple of them grew true - didn't revert. Here is the original plant in 2012, right after repotting, quite wrinkly and small:
I grow it as solitary plant; here is photo (same plant) taken in July 2019:
tropicofcancer (6b SW-PA)
4 years agorina_Ontario,Canada 5a
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agotropic
I believe mine is Skinny Fingers, same as yours. I thought it was Hobbit when I bought it, ID-ed as Skinny Fingers by Josh few years later.
It has few odd-shaped leaves (not too many), which some ppl cut off to keep very uniform. I never did, but maybe will this year. Odd-shaped leaves look like Gollum, some of them like Green Horn Tree. But most are tubular, so I believe it to be Skinny Fingers :)
I need to repot it, it has been in same pot way too long...maybe that's why trunk is thick at the bottom :) It is 8" at the soil line - that is circumference. Diameter would be approx. 2.55"
Here is overhead photo of 2 grown from leaves, taken last summer. You can see some variation in leaves - some look more Gollum-like:
Here they are in progression - it was slow to begin with:
Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6 thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5aStush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
4 years ago
geoforce
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoI was given a cutting from a plant growing outside on NC Outer Banks which had clearly the deeply curved, fleshy, 'Hobbit' type leaves. It has been growing in my lower light, indoor, conditions now for about 11 months and has slowly, and now completely, changed all new growth to the longer, more cylindrical 'Gollum' type. It makes me wonder about the true relationship of these different mutation types.
Rina... I also rooted up a Gollum leaf just to see what it would do. I knocked it off accidently while moving the plant and just put on a pot with a kalanchoe leaf in it. This is it at about 2 months. That kalanchoe has been there nearly 2 years and is still healthy. It put out roots rapidly but has yet to make a plant. Wonder how long it will last.
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4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoThey came in today. It was 32 degrees outside and box was wet and cold. Good thing Jades are tough. Hope they don't have any damage that shows up later. Heat pack was cold.
They were well packed and larger than I expected.
geoforce
4 years agorina_Ontario,Canada 5a
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agogeoforce
I also have couple of kalanchoe leaves hat have rooted but not growing any plants, and are very same for at least 6mo, perhaps longer. Just yesterday, I pulled one out and cut about 1/3rd of it, and placed cut end on top of mix. Maybe it will grow some offsets...otherwise, I may just toss them on compost pile :) Some leaves do that: they grow roots but not leaves, or vice-versa.
That gollum is looking good, plantlet has grown few leaves. Mine sprouted quite fast too, but hen it grew relatively slowly.
Lars
Your gollum and arborescens are very nice. I have arborescens but it is very slow grower; has no branches. It grew few leaves in 2yrs since I got it.
It gets reddish margins while outside, but has to be indoors for about 6mo...How old approx. is the plant in your photo?Stush
Your new jades look good, so I hope there is no cold damage. Mine took 8 yrs to grow to size in the photo, so not a fast grower! But I grow it quite hard and maybe that has something to do with it. It is only about 18" from soil line now; maybe it would be taller if in bigger pot and fertilized. But I like short, fat and somehow tapered trunk it has. I only pruned off 2 branches over the years. I do not want it to grow very tall, rather like to see trunk getting fatter!
rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agogeoforce
C.o. 'Hummel's Sunset' has regular, oval leaves. Here is photo of one of mine, taken today. Plant is grown under lights, so color is quite good:
Stush is showing plant named Gollum Sunset (plant with yellow leaves) - I never saw one like that. Leaves look more Hobbit-like to me.Btw, where are you located? - maybe you mentioned but I don't remember..
ETA: I just realized I showed this same Hummel's Sunset on your other thread...sorry!
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4 years agoRina, I also have the Hummel's Sunset as you showed. Mine is all green. Don't have a place to give it full sun. I have a larger Hobbit that I purchased as Hobbit Variegata and looked just like the ones I purchased. If fell off my porch railing and only had the stump. It regrew back but is totally green. I am afraid these are the same way. Seller did not say they were variegated so they must be sun stressed. And they were grown in California so very possible. The other Gollum Sunset has some leaves totally yellow so I believe it to be more true.
My son became interested in succulents and I have given him a lot of plants to fill his house and greenhouse. He gets his pick of the ones I just got. I might end up giving the other Hobbit away if it turn all green. I have a few larger ones at about 14 inches tall. Don't need more.
Here's the one that turned all green.
Can't find current pictures of my bigger jades.
rina_Ontario,Canada 5a
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoStush
I don't believe the reason for your jade being green is where it came from. And it isn't just stress that will cause coloration (while it will often increase it). If you have colorful or variegated cultivar, it will need proper light to keep it's colors.
Many plants will get some color in sun even if not a colorful cv but it is bit different. Very well visible on 'regular/common' green jade, C. ovata. Many leaves will have red margins in good sun, even if not over-stressed. Here is same jade, left photo is outside, right photo same plant indoors, no supplemental lights:
This Hummel's Sunset came as a small plant from San Diego, and it has been all green when in low light. Here is comparison photo:
Same with Akai/Lemon and Lime - top photo when purchased; bottom photo under lights, about 3" away (photo from yesterday):
Same goes for other succulents. This echeveria - top on windowsill in Jan. 2020; bottom still outside in September 2019:
Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6 thanked rina_Ontario,Canada 5aStush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
4 years agoI just started to keep some under LED lights. Here's some of my big ones.
It's this time of year they get really beat up.
Lars