I prefer B because

- I’m not sure you’ll fit a mirror with the windows there (6’ isn’t very high for the top of the mirror)

- can you put your bed in the top wall and therefore not have any plumbing behind it at all?

Whats that room outside the bedroom?

Thanks, D. There will be a wall of windows on that top (north) wall, fireplace on the left (west)wall. There is a small storage/pantry/laundry room outside the master, and then a courtyard to the west of the fireplace.

Is this new construction?

If you can't move the bed and the toilet placement on that wall works best, why not explore some sound deadening materials in that wall to help mask sound from the bathroom?

Yes Mark, it's new. The wall with the bed will be a built-in wood accent wall, with built-in nightstands, so although I love Mark's idea, I was hoping for that built-in bed look. We can do some sound masking - one of us is an acoustics expert, so we'll be doing that regardless of where the potty goes.

Can't a built-in wood accent wall with built-in nightstands incorporate windows?

If the bed stays where it is originally shown, who get to walk around the bed or climb over the other person to get to the bathroom? (I bet it is not Leslie)

Layout the spaces, then place the windows.

Ha! In our current home, I get the long walk. In this house, well, you win the bet! You really have me thinking though... the space under the windows was "wasted" because I wasn't planning on putting anything on that all. Only issue is that we'll lose the view out those windows. They face a mountain, and it's protected land behind us - there will never be houses built there. But, the great room and kitchen both have the view, and the view is gone at night anyway.

I'm thinking about that!

Inspiration photo:

Thanks, Beverly. A separate toilet isn't really needed in our situation. Neither of us would ever use the rest of the bathroom if one of us was in the little closet. I know many people like them, but they're not for us. And you're right about the doors. I sketched those in quickly without thinking them through. Thank you!

Where the toilet is located in your bathroom will make little to no difference in how much sound it makes in the bedroom. Choose the arrangement you like best...that is something that can make a difference in your satisfaction with the bathroom.

That's not really a built in, but a partition wall in the bedroom.

Is the rest of your home going to take on this style appearance? This is a whole-house style committment.

kudzu9, that's exactly what I was hoping to hear. I've seen people mention here that placement opposite a bed wall was a no-no, but couldn't understand why. Sound will transmit from either placement, especially if we avoid a wall-mounted system, which we will.

Beverly, yes - it will be a rustic/industrial look throughout.

Leslie-

You're right. Unless it is a wall mount, it's not going to make a real difference. And even if you insulated the wall between the bedroom and the bathroom, the noise from the toilet, wherever it was, would still transmit through the closed door. The only no-noise solution is if we go back to chamber pots ;-)

And even then....

There's a mountain in Florida? How do you define "mountain"?

Good catch, Mark! This is a new house in Colorado. Lots and lots of mountains. :) I forgot that this is the same forum as my gardening group - hence the zone and location!

Are you designing this house yourself?

Ok. I live in an old house. Like 1940s old. One of the bedrooms backs up to the bathroom and toilet. I never notice any excessive noise when someone uses the toilet. Or the shower. So, I doubt it will be an issue with new construction once you get in and get busy living in it. Because probably the only time you'll be in the bedroom is at night/sleeping and probably there won't be a constant parade of people using the bathroom to make noise. You might consider, however, that Feng Shui doesn't like toilets to be on a bedroom wall right next to the bed. Feng Shui really doesn't like toilets - it represents draining of energy. So the people who sleep with their bed next to toilet wall will feel drained of their energy. If you believe in that stuff.

Mark, I am not, but I didn't care for the original layout. Toilet right across from the door.

Of course, there are "cures" for everything in Feng Shui. To remedy the toilet situation, you can tie a red ribbon around the drain pipe of the toilet (and the sinks and tub/shower too) , behind the walls/floors or vanity so that it doesn't show.

I feel drained of energy by thinking that unwise toilet placement will drain my energy.

I like what Mark did if you're good with not having the "gas chamber" as it is an improvement over the "prison toilet" in the original post.

A comment about having your bed face the mountains out the window. We have a home in the Colorado mountains, and our master bed faces the window. At night, the spouse likes the window covered, but I love it open, so I can see the outdoors, especially when there's a full moon. Consider whether you would enjoy that view out your bedroom window, even if you also get the view from other rooms

I think seeing a beautiful soaking tub from the bedroom sounds lovely. Then you don't have to worry about anything you might not of cleaned up from the counter. Definitely a water closet or partition is in order.

Thanks everyone. I love how some people insist on a water closet, and others hate the stink chamber. I do love the silhouette of our bathtub, and wouldn't mind giving it a prominent place. And that lets us keep the mountain view out the window. The sun hitting those peaks in the morning will be spectacular too. (We are early risers, so that won't be a problem.)

From the OP: "I prefer "A" because I think the vanities will be more attractive than a bathtub when viewed from the bedroom."

How much time do you think you'll spend in the bedroom staring into the bathroom?

All good points! Lots to think about! Especially the "prison toilet" comment. Never heard that one before! Is it only the master toilet that has to be hidden, or do all toilets need separate rooms? I'll post my guest bathroom next! And the powder room. That one will be tricky to hide, because it's in a small space already.

You do realize that the distance from the far side of the bed in either arrangement is essentially the same? Assuming the bed is centered on either wall, the distance from the bed on the bathroom wall is actually about a foot closer. And the near side of the bed on the bathroom wall is, of course, closer than the near side of the bad on the upper wall. If that's really something that matter to you.

You may want to post your entire plan, but . . .

WARNING: Posting your entire floor plan opens you up to facts you may not want to know, but should. Be prepared for suggestions that will make for a better design. Keep a thick skin, open mind, sense of humor, and a glass of wine within arms reach. You may not enjoy it, but everyone else will and you will be better off in the long run if you heed well the advice.

I'm too scared that there is not enough wine in the world... Honestly, I really don't have thick enough skin to post it. I appreciate everyone's input, and I read every other floor plan critique and take note, but I'm just not that brave. I know - expensive character flaw, but it is what it is. Mad respect for everyone who does, and even more respect for the pros who take the time to look them over.

During my breaks I often go to Houzz for entertainment and frustration, much like watching the Detroit Lions play football.

It is the bathroom door swing in the original layout that leads me to believe there may be other improvements to be made in parts of the design not seen.

Thanks, Mark. The bathroom door should swing in against the shorter wall. I was just rushing to sketch out a plan to post for this without confirming it against

the real plans. Both the closet and bathroom doors swing in.