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Comments (4)I am a bit apologetic because I did want to make the complete conversion from synthetic to organic. I posted this in the general forum as opposed to the organic forum since I was looking for synthetic pre-M products and knew I'd probably get some heat in the organic forum. Unfortunately there is a lot of debate on the effectiveness of CGM as a pre-M. I've heard it works great, takes several years to effectively work, acts as a fertilizer for the weeds, and everything in between. I have the added problem of needing a pre-M that doesn't fertilize because having zoysia this far north means there is quite a bit of time between weed germination and when the zoysia actually starts to grow. This lag time I believe is what has caused all of my problems over the years (where I would put down a chemical fertilizer too early and the weeds would get a nice boost). I think the CGM I put down last spring and this past fall compounded the issue because while it may have had some pre-M properties, it also gave a nice dose of fertilizer to the soil; fertilizer that the actual lawn was not able to use until much later. By that time the weeds had gained a foothold and thanked me for the feeding. Thanks everyone for the comments. I had thought my hunch was true (about not having any seed left), but didn't want to kill off the seeds if it was common knowledge that X% of seed will germinate in the spring after the hard frost even if they didn't come up in the fall seeding. I think I'll go along with a pre-M application without fertilizer, then wait until shortly before the zoysia comes out of dormancy to go back to my organic approach....See MoreDreaming of Winter Sowing
Comments (5)I admit it, I'm obsessed. I cannot go a day without thinking/talking about it. I cannot sleep after I get off work until I've read through all the post in this forum. Also, I think I wake up more easily now, because I always think I hear the postman at the door (hopefully seeds). Its the first time I've been truly excited before the holidays since that first x-mas when all I got were clothes (what do you mean I'm to old for toys) Anticipation is great therapy for seasonal depression....See MoreCalling all Winter Sowers
Comments (8)Naw! Nothing that complicated! :-) The quick and easy version is - you take a cut down milk or water jug (or anything else about that size, or bigger), fill it with soil, and sow your seeds as you would if you were going to do it all inside. Then you place the container in a plastic baggie with a couple of holes poked in the top (for ventilation), and one poked at the bottom(for drainage), and put it outside (but not in the sun). Once spring is really here you can take off the baggie and you're done. It might take a couple of tries before you get the hang of it, but it works well and is pretty easy, but the best thing is that it frees up some space under the lights for more seeds :-) It works quite well for any seed that benefits from a cold period (stratification). The freeze/thaw cycles break down the seed coat, and the plastic baggie keeps the moisture in and acts as a bit of a greenhouse. The seeds are slower to sprout than if you'd done it inside, but it's much less fuss, and by the end of June it's impossible to tell the difference between seedlings started inside and seedlings started outside - actually some plants will be further ahead if winter sown, due to the fact that they didn't have to go through an acclimation period. You can get as fancy and as complicated as you like - some refinements bring a higher success rate, and some just make certain aspects of the process easier. I don't winter sow because I hate, hate, hate the cold and going outside in the winter. It's my loss since I don't have much indoor space to begin with, but I also kind of like the fussing that goes with the indoor starting - it's an early spring for me :-) BP...See MoreSan Antonio Plant Swap and Garden Visit Oct. 2012 ...
Comments (7)We had a great time. And no, I didn`t stop at a single nursery on the way home. Jim filled the car up with rocks! Thanks again for having us. See you in the spring. I owe Patty some ginger and Rebecca thalia and purple stem taro. I`ve been planting and repotting all day today. I`ll get pics posted later. Barb brought me "two" giant crinums, I think there are 30++ in those two pots! Tally HO!...See MoreZalco/bring back Sophie!
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