My Mortimer Sackler grows as a shrub next to the house--gets about 5-6 ft tall, but wants to grow taller--I keep trimming it back to be a shrub. It is hardy to Zone 5. I should be receiving any day now my two new Austin climbers--The Pilgrim (yellow/white blend) and St. Swithun (light pink/white blend). I'm quite excited about them. They are both hardy to Zone 5, and both are supposedly disease-resistant and floriferous. I'll be growing them on pillars, but I think they would look great at the fence corners. Kate

Touted when it came out as "disease resistant", 'The Impressionist' made me wonder what that phrase must really mean, because mine defoliates faster and more completely from Blackspot than most any other rose I grow. Very disappointing. I also find the color to be harsh compared to the softer hues of the Austin roses. It is very stiff and upright and not at all easily trained. After 7 years of fussing with it, it meets Mr. Shovel this year.

Spirit of Freedom and Teasing Georgia are arguably DA's best climbers. Odd that nobody ever talks about SOF on here. Crown Princess Margareta makes a nice smaller climber if trained, as does The Pilgrim. Graham Thomas is an old favorite, but Teasing Georgia is a superior rose in pretty much every respect. Gertrude Jekyl could also be trained as a climber in your zone, but will need to be in a shadier location if you wish it to repeat. It is not very heat tolerant where rebloom is concerned. If I had to pick any of these, Spirit of Freedom would get the nod. Unless I wanted something not pink, in which case, Teasing Georgia.

Robert, thank you so much. They do make it a bit confusing huh?! I am not a perfectionist. Just a "rightist" (which can make you just as nuts) Proceeding with the layout of my 3 new beds will be easier now. At least in my head LOL! Now the roses just need to follow directions, riiiiight, lol. Elaine, to answer your question (and more), all of them! Actually, I bought the DA collection from J&P (bareroot) 7 plants and had a few DAs already and then just purchased 3 from Armstrong (sale 2 for 1 :-) ). Just for the heck of it here is the list of what I have (so far): Teasing Georgia Abraham Darby Charles Darwin Janet Golden Celebration The Pligrim- potted few years ago- now has a prominent spot in raised bed and doing wonderful! Windemere Crown princess Margareta Christopher Marlowe Geoff Hamilton-potted few years ago out of ignorance- in pathetic shape Falstaff Bishops Castle Geoff Hamilton-potted few years ago out of ignorance- in pathetic shape. A Shropshire Lad- potted few years ago out of ignorance- in pathetic shape. Jubilee Celebration- bareroot (knocked out of water for few hours) still doing nothing-canes. :-( Right now I just want to see the different DA and what they do. They delight me to no end! So, I guess for now I am seeing what will be happy with me and the climate. Yesterday, I went to the San Diego Rose show in Barona (first year there and not Del Mar fair grounds) and it just so happens the Indian Res. has one of the largest DA rose gardens in the States! First I heard of it. It is only a couple years old. (I will post about it.) Thanks!