No problem at all, OJ, you're welcome to 'somewhat hijack' my thread any time you want to. But hopefully you'll be able to originate your own again soon, it must be very frustrating as it is. I gather, from reading a number of threads, that several others have been having problems, too. Rusty

It feels somewhat easier to offer kindness and love than to hate if one has enough self-esteem to feel rather comfortable in one's own skin (emotionally speaking, that is). No disparagement intended on folks who have physical skin issues. ole joyful

The minister of the suburban church has been suffering problems with her neck for most of a year and there's a possibility that it can't be treated sufficiently for her to resume her career. Our former minister, who achieved her doctorate prior to her retirement from this congregation a few years ago, recently made a pilgrimage on the Camino de Santiago in France and Spain and has referred to it on recent Sundays as she led worship. Recently her sermon titles have been "Joy happens when ..." and today's title was "Joy blooms wild and bright" and she challenged us to build on new and worthwhile, interesting ways of living, and to build in joy while doing so. Guess who was paying close attention. We collected a number of gifts for residents of a local housing complex for disadvantaged people, where their chaplain told us that many of the residents come to stay for a while while they are putting their lives back together, then leave to make room for others trying to achieve stability. Good wishes for embracing some rediscovered joy as you journey through this week. ole joyfuelled

If you see that some aspect of your society is bad, and you want to improve it, there is only one way to do so: you have to improve people. And in order to improve people, you begin with only one thing: you can become better yourself. Leo Tolstoy in A Calendar of Wisdom