Thanks Brent. Cool Pics of the pool build and then the solar install. How much was the solar install and all? And Aquatherm, is it in Sunrise, FL. I will check on that. I did get my equipment pad to be extended for the possible heater. So my PB is now doing a pad of 3 x 7. Should be enough. I hope. Or is that too big. I can't go 4 x 6 because my silly walkway on side of house between my house wall and fence is only five feet wide. So he thought going with 3 x 5, which is what he needed with a bit extra. I think 7 should be plenty. 3 x 7 pad. Do the solar panels need pad or is it just wall space. My pool continuation work started yesterday. SO exciting to finally see it come back up to a change. This is my pool in October after my first pool builder left my site, (went bankrupt, and took my payments. Long, Horrible, Story). Now my new pool builder started yesterday and wow. They got all the excation done, limerock, and sand down and compacted. Today they are doing the pavers lay down (while I'm at work). I'll try to upload a picture of that. They are awesome. Great people. They promised and delivered. I'm so not used to that. Plus very kind with my requests like the concrete pad extended. (Thanks to you guys and your thoughts). Now if I can only think of any more requests. Anything else I should ask or check on.??? Like my Sunshelf. Did I ruin it by putting it on the second shelf. They mentioned that the bubbler won't really do any effect. And maybe I could turn that bubbler line to a return line. Any thoughts. Or should I just leave as a bubbler and do a rigged job afterwards to make it bubble. Confused.

You've lost me. If you compare this unit with the costs of purchasing a propane heater and heating with propane for one season you have about the same number. That is a one year payback. Its also the same with a heat pump because the initial investment is higher. I'll post a link below where you can calculate the costs of heating a pool using oil or propane or a heat punp and you can do the math yourself. The calculations start on page 27. Its the same with any solar pool heating system except with the standard solar heaters you do not get the same cooling benefits. I'll post my results in a few months, once I have some hard data Here is a link that might be useful: Guide to pool heating

We are installing a pool and having a very difficult selecting stone facing for our spa, so difficult that all progress as stalled until we can get through this decision! Our spa is raised and attached to our free form gunite pool. The problem we are having is that we want to have a natural stone look to the facing of the spa but we live in New England and have been told to absolutely avoid and stone with a high iron content to avoid rusting issues, not only is the weather an issue but there is a "spill out" on the spa into the pool and the stone will constantly have water on it, we were told field stone and granite are out, and almost all New England stone is out. We have received conflicting advice about the effectiveness of sealing the stone. We have also been told manufactured stone product (concrete facing) will over time be adversely affected by the chemicals and salt in the pool, and would not be of adequate thickness, with the way we built the spa to support a natural stone facing, ideally it would be a stone facing of 3" thickness. I can't believe how difficult this has been. In the magazines and books we see beautiful stone facing and stone water features in the northeast and we can't get a good answer from dealers and masons we are working with on what we should use on our spa/pool. Please if anyone can help, we would appreciate it greatly!

Typically the most common things that cause and e04 are the following. 1. barb fitting on the fan is clogged with rust or carbon. 2. The gas pressure is not correct causing violent ignition which forces the air flow sensor closed, then it re-opens and allows the ignition sequence to restart. Does the ignitor glow before the fuel ignites?