Relax everyone, this thread begins with a political screed having little relationship to the "environment". Change "environment" to immigration or public education and the rant is equally applicable. Mother Nature has pro-enviro lobbyists, but they all compete from the same limited pool of financial support and figure-heads. What Mother Nature doesn't have is widespread and deeply committed citizens working toward pro-enviro ends. When environmental conditions become so bad (if they ever do) that the powers-that-be cannot divert public attention away from the mess, they political action might bring about marginal improvements. Environmentalism/love-of-nature/outdoor-ism/etc. is in the heart of each of us who claim to have voices to be heard about environmental issues. Environmental ethics win the hearts; hard politics win the programs. OTOH heavy-handed govt action has proven ineffective, often counter-productive in promoting the elements of environmentalism at the bedrock of our visions for the country.

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Love the quotes, thanks. Seems you had already an entertaining morning, Lilo. Did you notice the quake? I wished my cat would pay notice to the news, she absolutely disregarded the time change. Husband is back in town, but at a rehab 2 miles from the house. Got a 4 mile hike already in this morning. Well, there got to be a good side to the whole mess. .

If you re-read the article you'll see that the OXO won over the Bonavita because of ease of use. The Bonavita was called "counter-intuitive" which is no small ding since (1) most of us stumble around in the morning before that first cup, LOL, and (2) these are writers experienced with coffeemachines, and they STILL didn't find it easy to use. The Bonavita is available at sizable discount, as low as $110. Less discounting on OXO (which is a 9 cup, not a 10 cup) but still runs in the $210-$230 range. The Technivorm is called their "Gold Standard" but it's in a different price range. Fewer discounts, and the lowest price is $270 but most sell it at list. In Feb 2016 the NYT and Oliver Strand said: "....The entry-level models are the Bonavita BV1900TS ($189), which does everything right, and the Oxo Barista Brain ($199). Both are following the trail blazed by the Technivorm Moccamaster ($299.95), a Dutch machine introduced in 1968 that has been the gold standard. Last year, Chemex unveiled the Ottomatic ($350), a bold move for a company built on manual brewing. Basically, it is a machine designed around a traditional Chemex dripper. At the high end, you have Ratio’s Eight ($570) designed by a Portland, Ore., company that is to coffee what vintage Marantz was to stereos. It’s by nerds, for nerds. Under all that brushed nickel and polished wood is a serious machine. "