Is it possibly Capodimonte which is a somewhat schlocky kitschy Italian tchotchke maker. Anything is possible as grandmothers amassed all kinds of crap LOL.

As I wrote, it has only sentimental value and not even my taste on apeven a camp level.

https://www.porcelainmarksandmore.com/germany/thuringia/schwarza-01/index.php

To the best of my knowledge they are not "old"...but were sold with a paper label ., And they made tchotchkes in different styles....art nouveau Meissen etc.

Cant' find where the factory was located but I think California.

Offer it up somewhere for $25 and buy what you like.

Thanks. I do believe that is the maker - in the style of Meissen is absolutely correct. Of course 1stdibs prices are so insanely inflated ha ha they are certainly no indicator of value.

At any rate, I was more curious about it to satisfy my curiosity since I don't intend to sell. I got rid of most of her cherubs and dancing lords and ladies but held on to this piece as a covered candy dish with a winged cherub :-). I do remember discussions as a child of Meissen and crossed swords etc. so I thought the piece had some age - principally because it would have gone against my Bubbe's principles to actually buy a tchotchke "new" in a department store versus hondeling with the "antique" stores that lined CIA back in the day.

@lindac - Not sure what you are referring to but it appears that the mark is E & A Muller - a German/Austrian company which manufactured from 1890 through 1927. The links provided by beck sharp and fori are the same as the one I posted for my piece.

I have no idea what the value is - don't really care as its value to me is sentimental solely. When I go to that great china cabinet in the sky, my heirs can do what they like :-).

Helen, you referenced the antique stores on CIA. Is this a street in NYC? If so, I am quite familiar with that venue. Perhaps I even knew your Bubbe.

@blubird - CIA is Coney Island Avenue in Brooklyn. In the 1950's and 1960's it had antique stores which were frequented by my Bubbe. I do remember going into them and watching her sparring with he owners (e.g hondeling LOL). They might not have been called antique stores then as I remember my mother saying her favorite used furniture stores went downhill when they started calling themselves antique stores :-).

If you had a Bubbe who lived in the area she might have known my Bubbe - especially if she went to the knitting store for "lessons" on Avenue J - Arthur Miller's mother was also a member of her knitting group. That culture is of course gone with the wind as the area is now almost exclusively extremely Orthodox Jew

And the stuff was NOT all NOT my taste - I inherited two gorgeous Chinese Art Deco rugs; a Chinese Deco chest; some Art Nouveau prints and a crane statue (which inspired my kitchen remodel).

@Helen- I was pretty sure that's what you had meant when you wrote CIA. I grew up in an apartment house on the corner of Ditmas and CIA. While I was too young to go antique shopping and my parents too poor, my in-laws shopped the stores frequently. We still have some of their pieces. My MIL had many pieces of Meissen lookalikes just like yours as well as cherubs; I gave them away to charity when we cleaned out her apartment, as they definitely were not my style either. I did keep her collection of dessert plates, cups and saucers.

There is an art to ‘hondeling’ Very similar to negotiating a car lease or purchase today, but with more humor and good intentions on both sides.

i do remember the knitting store on Avenue J. Those were times when women had the opportunity to sit around all afternoon and chat while knitting over the u-shaped table. If Bubbe was a really big time knitter, she might even have made her way to the Borough Park store Goldstein’s, as I recall it.

Unfortunately, none of my grandparents survived the Holocaust, along with aunts, uncles and cousins, too numerous to think about, so my mother taught me to knit, crochet and sew.

As an aside, one of my mother's aunts came out of Europe well before the war to settle on Fairfax Ave. in LA. Her name was Helen, too.

I was a few blocks down the line as I lived off Avenue K on 8th Street. I remember going to a bowling alley on CIA nearer to you as my good friend lived on Argyle off Avenue

I don't really have much extended family as my maternal grandparents left Poland in the late 1920's but the rest of that branch died in the Holocaust and my paternal grandparents similarly similarly immigrated in the early 20th century but everyone else from that side also was exterminated.

Regarding the knitting, my Bubbe was always knitting or embroidering but since she didn't drive would never have gone to BP for schmoozing. The sessions really were more of a schmooze session. I still have some of the sweaters she knit which I just recently sent to my cousin and a huge plastic bin of the tablecloths she embroidered - I can't even imagine using the tablecloths which would have to be ironed every time they were used. Even my mother who did use the "good" china gave up using those tablecloths.

I love/hate reading your stories....those were horrible times.
My thoughts on it being newer was the inclusion of the Corona pottery mark....they made stuff "in the style of".

Yes the art of hondeling - I remember being very young and my Bubbe spying a rug she liked and her opening rejoinder was How much for this rug that is going to fall apart when it is cleaned - said of course with an implicit wink and smile. I used to do a lot of flea marketing awhile back and channeled her ghost when dealing with the sellers - you would never want to be rude - it was all just a friendly expected game and part of the whole gestalt.

I don't think the stores on CIA were true "antiques" places and the prices reflected that. Except for upholstered furniture which was bought new, furniture was bought used to save money. There wasn't any IKEA furniture available so used was the default of choice for furniture. She taught school in what is now a far tonier Park Slope and she got some amazing stuff I think from those real used furniture stores. Looking back now I suspect that a lot of non fashionable items were dumped from brownstones as the original owners fled.

I have several items which came to me through my in laws from those CIA shops. One is a beautiful hanging lamp in the Tiffany style. I can’t fine any identifying marks on it, but it the electrical was updated as a condition of purchase and it's quite nice. Unfortunately it’s hanging in my basement as i really don’t have a place for it in my dining room.

You must’ve gone to Leader Lanes with your friend; it had been a movie theater before life as a bowling alley. Oddly enough, someone posted a picture of it in its early years today on my Flatbush group....thought you might enjoy it. The photo was taken somewhere around 1940 according the the movie on the marquee, well before my time there. My apartment house is the tall building just left of center. My apartment was just behind the E in the upright Leader sign.

Yes that was the one. They had a sign directing people to the Kent which read GO TO THE KENT, SEE A GOOD SHOW.

Those were the days when my parents would drop us off without any care as to when a movie began and we would just watch whatever until the parents picked us up. There were matrons in white uniforms that patrolled the kid’s section. As if any adult would actually go To a matinee on the weekend at the Midwood.

The same family owned the Leader and the Kent. The Kent was interesting as the freight lines of the LIRR ran in an open cut right behind the screen area. When a train rumbled by you couldn’t hear the movie's sound track. I think the theater is still in operation. I don’t know if those freight lines are still in use.

You had mentioned your grandmother buying used furniture in Park Slope. My husband would occasionally accompany a co-worker who would pick up discarded furniture curbside from those brownstones, spray it with some sort of spray (insect or odor) and throw it into his trunk to sell to a second-hand store. Maybe your grandmother bought one of those pieces. You know the “6 degrees of separation“ thing?

Here's a picture of that Tiffany style hanging fixture...

The metal caps are brass; the bulb holding parts are a newer style dating to its purchase time frame of the early to mid 60s. The colors are beautifully vivid.

here's what part of the inside looks like

You can search German ebay.de or google.de

with the Umlaut E&A Müller Corona