I'll find out what our HS is and ask if they can dig up some info for me. Maybe I'll call one or several of the local papers, show them some photos of ones I've found, and see if I can get them to do something on it, if I can remain in the background, don't like publicity. That could throw me off track though. Also, something may have been written up in the past that I missed as I've just gotten hooked on these roses since 2003 when I found the Harison. Actually it started when I was a little girl and across the street was an arbor with something like a Fr. Hugo on it. From there, I found one growing as a hedge when my children were small back in the 70's and asked the people if I could have some seeds, was clueless about propagation in those days and no one to share my interest, so it has been dormant until lately. I'm waaaaay behind in my knowledge about these old roses, can't stop me from looking for them and trying to propagate them, photographing them, and just plain enjoying them. If I didn't have anything else to do, I should dig in and start researching myself starting at the library. They are extremely helpful there. Maybe in the winter I will do that.

Thanks farmerted361. Thanks a lot for the url with photo but I don't think this is it. The petals don't look quite the same but mainly the center of the flower looks different. Course it's been some time so I could be remembering it incorrectly. What would be more helpful would be to see the actual cactus itself. I think I could more easily identify that. I looked to the websites that you suggested but havent' had any luck yet. I'm going next to look at the night blooming cereus. I am amazed by all of the knowledge from people in this forum. What an amazing group of enthusiasts!!

I was out gardening in a light rain on June 3 when I noticed a similar thing-- emerging from the mulch surrounding my tomato plants were thread-thin, smooth white worms, about 3 inches long, waving around blindly, and climbing anything they touched. One even wrapped itself around a tomato cage wire and climbed that. They were pretty energetic climbers, too. They had no feet-- caterpillars do-- and they were way too thin to be slugs. I decided it was time to stop gardening for the day and crept into the house to look up "climbing worms" on my computer. I had never seen anything like it before, either, probably because that type of worm likes to come out in the rain. I had watered the day before, so the soil itself was already moist. The worms seem to have been Mermis nigrescens, which parasitize grasshoppers. There is apparently a laboratory line of them from some discovered in a Canadian woman's garden, according to Google. Mermis is a roundworm, and many roundworms are parasites. Mermis nigrescens is part of a larger group of roundworms called "horsehair worms." I called my county agent (in Cumberland County, PA), and was told that without actually seeing a specimen, they could not assure me that the worms I saw were actually Mermis nigrescens, which is supposed to be harmless to humans, since it only parasitizes grasshoppers. Mermis nigrescens is supposed to be beneficial, according to the articles I found through Google, in that it weakens grasshoppers, and research is being done to see if it can be purposely introduced in farm crops for that purpose. Mermis climbs grass and leaves tiny black eggs on it for grasshoppers to eat. The eggs open up upon contact with water, hopefully within a grasshopper, which is then parasitized. The extension agent said 3 inches was rather small for a Mermis, so the worms were probably just coming out to mate. The Google article I found suggested that they look darker when full of eggs. I personally plan to use the tomatoes from that patch for tomato sauce, and the few herbs I have nearby for cooking as well, just in case it was not Mermis nigrescens. I keep wondering if the same worms are coming out when it rains in my hubby's garden through our township. He uses the same mulch, and we eat lettuce from that one... :(

Yes when researching plant demands I saw that the last was a croton. Just funny HD wouldn't even give it a label or tag saying its a croton. I plan on repotting tomorrow, so i will be flushing very well and spreading roots out in coir. Im trying to convince the ol lady to set up a flood n drain table and go full hydro on them but she is reluctant. I'm going to start out using my tried n true maxigro fert (10-5-14) but dont know where to begin on strength. Actually quite hard finding specific hydro info on houseplants.