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Brittany
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Comments (36)reluctantartist - Here's the issue, as I understand it. This is NOT a formal legal opinion, so don't rely on it, but... Calforna's standards for residential construction are contained in the California Residential Code, which is part of Title 24 of the California Code of Regulations (CCR). As of January 2011, for the first time, the CRC does follow the 2009 IRC. It doesn't just do it by reference, however, it adopts specific code sections that contain the language of the model code, sometimes in slightly modified form. More importantly, the California Residential Code ONLY adopts equivalents of the IRC codes up through the end of Part III (("Building Planning and Construction") of the 2009 IRC. The section of the IRC that addresses makeup air (section 1503.4), however, is in Part 5 of the 2009 IRC ("Mechanical"), within Chapter 15 ("Exhaust Systems"). If you look at the California Residential Code, however, it specifically says "Note: Part V is not adopted. See California Mechanical Code, Title 24, Part 4") This is actually part of the California Residential Code as posted on ICC's own site, as shown in the attached link. The 2010 California Mechanical Code, is based not on the equivalent sections of the IRC, but on the Uniform Mechanical Code. I does NOT contain any makeup air requirement(s) equivalent to section 1503.4 of the IRC. It does contain provisions for makeup air of gas heaters, commercial kitchens, etc, but the ONLY potentially directly relevant section of the CMC to residential ventilation, based on my cursory initial review, is Section 701.1.4, which states the general proposition that "Where exhaust fans, clothes dryers and kitchen ventilation systems interfere with the operation of appliances, makeup air shall be provided." No specific standards for CFM. The other section of the CMC for residential ranges is section 504 (Environmental Air Ducts) and its subsections, which doesn't address makeup air but does say generally that "Environmental air ducts not regulated by other provisions of this code shall comply with this section . . . Exhaust ducts shall terminate outside the building and shall be equipped with back-draft dampers...Environmental air duct exhaust shall terminate a minimum of three (3) feet (914 mm) from property line and three (3) feet (914 mm) from openings into the building." It also says, more specifically at subsection 504.2 ("Domestic Range Vents") that "Ducts used for domestic kitchen range ventilation shall be of metal and shall have smooth interior surfaces." I can't find the reference right now, but I remember there is also a provision stating that kitchen exhausts can't issue into "walkways." Again, this isn't a legal opinion, and I could be wrong. Also, in California as everywhere else local jurisdictions are free to adopt MORE stringent code requirements, so you still need to check with your local agency to make sure they haven't independently adopted a specific makeup air requirement. But in the absence of such a local requirement, I don't think there is any hard and fast CFM-related makeup air requirement in California, at least yet....See MoreNeed feedback re Wolf hood sizes and 2 cfm motors
Comments (3)I'm in your shoes as far as looking for a hood for my 30" Wolf R304, and we are looking to buy in the next few days. Our R304 has been installed since February (it replaced an older JennAir downdraft), and we haven't had any ventilation at all since then other than opening a window. We are not big into frying or woking and only occasionally do stinky food. In reality there have only been a couple of times we have even felt we needed a hood. Plus, for the most part, we only have two burners going at a time on top. Heat from the oven exhausting is an issue, and since it got hot out we have been using our electric wall oven rather than the gas Wolf so as not to heat up the kitchen too much. We live in a cold climate, so the extra heat output from the range is nice in the colder months. Our primary goal will be to have a hood to remove hot air expelled by the range in the summer heat. In the past four months there have only been max a half a dozen times when we needed to open the window specifically to deal with cooking fumes or output or smoke. And, the wall and cupboard area by the range are not showing any evidence of a lot of grease coating them. So for all of these reasons, and because we have a ton of constraints as far as hood size, we plan to go with something smaller than either option you are discussing. On our short list of hoods the largest hood we are considering is probably smaller than the smaller one you discuss. Having lived with this range already for months we are comfortable with this decision. We know it will work for us. What is best for you and your cooking style may be another story. I too have read everything here for ages now and have come to an understanding that what is recommended here as maximal is often for an unconstrained situation in a kitchen gut or in new construction where everything can be planned around the absolutely optimal hood that will take care of a range with all four burners and the oven blazing away at the same time. Many of us who are doing minor remodelings or just appliance upgrades do not have the luxury of following all of that advice. Good luck with your decision. Whether I gave you a compelling argument to go with the 10" I don't know....See More300 CFM vent hood and BACON
Comments (30)You'll be fine. People have fried bacon for years without venting at all. I use an electric skillet for larger amounts of bacon instead of using my range. No problems no horrid smells. No grease on the cabinets or counter. Properly cooked bacon is a slow process over low to medium heat. I only turn on my vent for heavier cooking. All this angst on this forum about venting is downright silly. Unless you are high heat cooking for hours on end on all burners the recommendations are way over rated. And some people just love to spend other people's money. It's refreshing to hear the appliance dealer didn't try to upsell you. Cooking smells in houses is a good thing. It's what makes a house a home. Range hoods are for removing combustion products,smoke, heat, airborn grease, and steam from the area above the cook top. They were never designed to be whole house ventilation systems. Windows let in fresh air. Range hoods remove cooking effluent....See MoreDuct size for 800 cfm blower
Comments (2)The goal for kitchen hood system ducts carrying grease particulates that get past the baffles -- the smaller end of the grease particulate spectrum -- is to operate in the 1000 ft/min to 2000 ft/min velocity range to balance condensation at the low end and impingement collection at the high end. Lower noise will result operating at the low end, but the duct should be pre-warmed if part of its path is very cold when there is no air flow. If your blower is rated at 800 CFM, then it is unlikely, even with ideal make-up air, that it will be moving more than 600 CFM past the baffles and through the ducting. Divide 600 cubic ft/min by the area of each section of duct (converted to sq. ft.) to yield the velocity. If there is a section that is higher than 2000 ft/min, likely the pressure loss will further degrade the blower performance and this section should be increased in diameter....See MoreBrittany
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